PC random restarts

After that I'm trying a new mobo. This has now become the main quest because the infrequent restarts were what started all this initial stuff!
 
I’d go totally back to basics at this point. Short the bios jumpers, fresh copy of Windows 11 (or Debian if you’re a love machine who gets all the chicks) and go from there.

Reseat everything, hell start as barebones as you can get. All the fans unplugged, anything non essential out.

All I can think of is the battery pull did a full bios clear and you’ve lost something UEFI related which is borking the GPU initialisation. Didn’t think Windows worked that way though…

Jokes aside from previous posts, I was literally just typing a suggestion to try it with Linux or a clean install on another drive, to see if this is just Windows, being Windows...
Just make sure, if you install Linux, to not use the default open source driver, as that will lead you down a rabbit hole of issues, so just use the latest official Nvidia closed source driver, then that eliminates potential ****ery!
 
So I did a new install after reseating CPU. It got to the windows noise and I have a black screen, with a movable cursor and the screen is flashing every few seconds with a pattern. This is onboard.

So can we safely say this is CPU or mobo now. I can still hear it booting up to window I just can't get a picture with igpu or GPU now.

I can see the bios with igpu, but just does the flashing thing when it gets to windows.

Cpu in warranty until Nov 24th so would rather it was that, temp mobo arriving tomorrow.
 
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You've already tarnished/embarassed that hardware, with that case and RGB :D

So you mean to tell me, you have all those gay RGB fans, but no spare SATA/NVME, to do a test install on another drive? #priorities :rolleyes: :P

What's wrong with a Lian-Li O11D? The hardware is clearly ******, I'm not wasting any more time on it:p

Ps. Where's that link for the wireless non RGB fans?
 
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What's wrong with a Lian-Li O11D? The hardware is clearly ******, I'm not wasting any more time on it :p
Your first mistake, was buying an over-inflated X platform motherboard - versus buying a bigger single NVME.
To overpay for a motherboard, based on the ability to run multiple small NVME's/SATA - as they rip us off with that along with USB4.0 support.

As for Lian-Li:

They are an overpriced brand IMHO, selling generic cases/products rebranded/stamped with their name.
Their PSU's offer a lesser warranties than rivals, yet a higher or similar price?

Case wise, if take an NR200P, for example, it is the same case restamped/rebranded, via 5+ manufacturers - it can be bought in Asia or USA, for as little as $50-60, yet in the UK, it's a £200 case?

I hope you get it sorted mate :)
 
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Or perhaps people just have different use cases to yourself? Pray tell me how big are the M2 drives I'm using? Hint, bigger than 2Tb.

The case is the best I've ever had in terms of build features. I'm not about to start getting tribal over pc cases, life's too short :)

Never really been into 'bang for buck' builds, I get what I like the look of generally. Plus I was an early adopter, B850 didn't exist.

If it is MB looking at X870 Tomahawk, few mbs don't seem to split the PCI bandwidth, doubt it makes much difference but would be nice to know I'm getting 'full speed'.

Btw your tirades remind me very much of another member we used to have, so much so I'm beginning to think you are indeed them.
 
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Your first mistake, was buying an over-inflated X platform motherboard - versus buying a bigger single NVME.
To overpay for a motherboard, based on the ability to run multiple small NVME's/SATA's, is madness, as is to care about USB4.0, and then buy the over-inflated few drives/devices, that use it ;) :D

B850, or GTFO!

As for Lian-Li:

They are a cheap overpriced POS brand, one of the most cliche scumbag brands, that I've ever had the displeasure to experience - you only have to look at their laughable product support/descriptions/website, to know they're ******* you, hard!

They're nothing special, often more than not, they're generic cases/products rebranded/stamped with their name.

I consider them an entry to mid level at best components, re-badged, at an inflated price, to **** wits who, for some reason, 'liked' their products, when they were even worse in the early 2000's!

I've had personal experience with their products, since '04, and nothing has ever striked me as 'worth the extra money/premium' with their products - in fact, the polar opposite.
I find it laughable that they often lesser warranties than rival, better brands, for things such as PSU's yet charge more - had this issue when considering their SFX PSU's versus Corsair/everyone else.

Despite their history, being unbiased, I considered one of their cases recently, only to find, guess what, it was ****, terrible bundled fans, that you're forced to buy with the case at an inflated price, **** airflow and cable management, cut yourself 90's/00's case material quality, hilarious 00's grade website support/documentation; all at a rip-you-off price!

They remind me of those random scumbag Chinese ebay sellers, that claim they're UK based, then you buy something, and get bombarded at silly 'AM with emails/delayed replies, with 'Chinglish broken English responses, pretending to be English, starting each message with 'Hello Dear' (as with every Chinese seller pretending to be English, that I've ever been conned by) then sending you some shady Chinese logistics tracking...

TLDR, they might as well be Acer to me, and I HATE Acer!
No thank you :D

Rip-off merchants aside I hope you get it sorted mate :)
So what you're saying is that you're on the fence with Lian-Li? :D
 

Oh I totally get that, I was generalising, there was no personal attack :)

I just feel like, these days, we're mis-sold products, based on stubbornness? For example, people are often too lazy to sell their current SSD/NVME, and buy a bigger one, instead they buy a 2nd/3rd drive, which then puts them in an awkward position, for their current and next upgrade, as they now have 'limited bandwidth' with their multiple drives, of which they started off with full bandwidth with a single drive.
X570 solved this, yet B550, should have had this 'feature', but they deliberately didn't make it a standard, and still don't on B650/850.

True, I agree, I just dont like being ripped off - the NR200P for example; 5+ brand's variants, if you live in Asia or USA, you can buy 1 made by the other brands for $40-60.

I didn't realize that I had offended you, I thought it was clear that I was joking with the back and forth.

What's wrong with a Lian-Li O11D? The hardware is clearly ******, I'm not wasting any more time on it
:p


Ps. Where's that link for the wireless non RGB fans?

Regarding 'Wireless' wired fans; if you don't care about RGB, why not buy something that you can daisy chain, such as the Arctic P12/14 Pro PST's?

So what you're saying is that you're on the fence with Lian-Li?
:D

:P I find it a mixed bag with their products, I don't think they're worthy of an inflated scene tax.
 
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So I did a new install after reseating CPU. It got to the windows noise and I have a black screen, with a movable cursor and the screen is flashing every few seconds with a pattern. This is onboard.

So can we safely say this is CPU or mobo now. I can still hear it booting up to window I just can't get a picture with igpu or GPU now.

I can see the bios with igpu, but just does the flashing thing when it gets to windows.

Cpu in warranty until Nov 24th so would rather it was that, temp mobo arriving tomorrow.

This is the weirdest troubleshoot ever. Every diagnostic action seems to create a new symptom.

Geez, at this point I think the only idea I have with the current hardware is to take the board out of the case and plop it on a cardboard box to rule out anything shorting. Are you using Liquid Metal TIM? No bent pins on the CPU socket?
 
If it gets to Windows login but then you don't get anything on the monitor, can you rdp to the desktop OK?
 
This is the weirdest troubleshoot ever. Every diagnostic action seems to create a new symptom.

Geez, at this point I think the only idea I have with the current hardware is to take the board out of the case and plop it on a cardboard box to rule out anything shorting. Are you using Liquid Metal TIM? No bent pins on the CPU socket?

I know right, I did inspect the socket when I reseated but nothing stands out. The CPU has only been installed last Nov and then that reseat.

I really have little patience for stuff like this, takes so long to sort but obviously I don't want to replace something that does actually work. I can test the CPU in the temp mobo later at least, that won't take long as I can bare bones it out the box.
If it gets to Windows login but then you don't get anything on the monitor, can you rdp to the desktop OK?

Not sure, what that means sorry. I know I can login as I enter my passcode and I can tell by the reactive bios lighting I have behind my monitor that it's on the desktop.
 
Not sure, what that means sorry. I know I can login as I enter my passcode and I can tell by the reactive bios lighting I have behind my monitor that it's on the desktop.
Hmm. That's with the CPU's graphics, right? If so, it sounds more like a driver/software issue with Windows.

Is the riser now disconnected?
 
Sorry remote desktop. You can either use this from another Windows PC or there are clients for just about everything else - Linux, android, iOS.

So as @Tetras said if this is without the riser and the dedicated GPU card and just the iGPU output, and you're getting to the windows login prompt but at that point the monitor indicates no signal but you hear all the windows has booted up / logging in sounds then that does sound like a driver / windows issue. So if you can connect with a remote desktop client to the PC that's having the problem you should then be presented with the normal windows desktop and you can troubleshoot / install / fix whatever issue is causing the lack of a signal to the monitor. Assuming that it's not a cable / monitor issue?

Hmmm, just checked on Microsoft.com for some basic remote desktop instructions that you could use and it says you can only connect remotely to pro editions of windows which absolutely sounds like the kind of ******** Microsoft would do but that can't be right surely? Can you only rdp to versions that aren't some sort of home edition?
 
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