Pc vs ps4

Cost saving per game on PC: £15+
Buy 1 game per month = £180 per year saved on games.

CPU (+mobo) upgrade = every 5 years (eg I still use i7 920): £350
GPU upgrade = Every 2 years: £350

Eight year cycle.
Cost of PC: £2100 - £1440 saved on games
£660
Cost of console:
£350

Those figures are based on only 1 game per month, if you buy 2 games per month you will save a total of £2880 by gaming on PC. Obviously these figures can change. You may only buy 2nd hand console games, but by that time the PC versions can be had for less then the 2nd hand console versions (steam sales etc). You may buy PC games even cheaper from CD key sites etc. The figures I have listed do need to be taken with a grain of salt.

You can argue that for PC you need to buy ram, keyboard, mouse & monitor etc.
Well for console you need a TV, more controllers, Xbox Live etc too so those can cancel each other out. Again, figures are not exact but IMO if you buy 2 new games per month then PC gaming is actually cheaper then console gaming. Plus you benefit from better graphics, faster fps and the PC can do a lot more.

Consoles have their place.
I always like to have a console for when friends come over + they have some good exclusives.
You shouldn't compare them because it is Apples & Oranges. But, if you were to compare them, PC comes out top every time except for split screen play & having a laugh with your mates around.
 
There's a glaring gap in your logic in that with consoles you can trade/sell the games after you're done with them (as well as buying them second hand). I've currently got 5 console games in my house despite owning all 3 current gen consoles as I trade/sell them as soon as I complete them. If I buy them online then I can often sell them for only $10 less than I paid even a month later. In comparison I have over 200 games in steam (with a cost price of well over $3000) that I can't do anything with. Factor in as well that you can swap/lend console games around between friends which doesn't cost you anything.

The "PC can do more" argument is a bit redundant as a gaming PC is so far beyond the spec you need for pretty much anything else you'd do on a PC. For most people even an iPad has more power than they need unless they want to play games.

Don't get me wrong, I still play games on my PC and upgrade pretty often (4670k/HD7970 at the moment) but 3 things make me gravitate to consoles most of the time:

1) Ease - PCs are much better than they were but driver issues, incompatibilities, etc are still present and I just want to power up and play.
2) Level playing field - controllers aren't as accurate but everyone uses the same hardware (or 99% at least) and you don't have to play for hours each day just to have a half decent chance of enjoying a game.
3) Practicality - my consoles are in the lounge hooked up to a 55" TV, I can play whilst chatting to my missus rather than going into another room/home office to play on my PC. I also spend too long at my PC working so am quite glad to see the back of it at times!

To reply to the OP, any half decent PC will be on a par with a PS4, a top end system will wipe the floor with it and in a few years time when 4k PC gaming is becoming more prevalent you will definitely not be seeing the same on PS4/XB1. Whether graphics are that important to you is a personal preference, no real right or wrong.
 
ricky1981 said:
1) Ease - PCs are much better than they were but driver issues, incompatibilities, etc are still present and I just want to power up and play.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head there. The average consumer just cannot be bothered with taking the time to build, then troubleshoot, etc a PC when they can simply plug in a console and get gaming.
 
My PC (including Monitor) cost about 12xthat of a PS4 so I'd like to think it was pretty good :) My GFX cards are a bit dated now but BF4 looks amazing with everything on Ultra.
 
Red and White said:
And yet nobody has a 4k screen yet
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hence the words 'on the verge' , the tech is there and AMD and Nvidia are working on getting their drivers up to speed for commercial use, and it is starting to roll out.

It is only a matter of time , and were talking a few years at max before the screens are affordable and 'common' people start to buy them.

I believe tomshardware did a piece about it recently with current not complete drivers, current gpus and a £3.5K screen and the results were outstanding when compared to 1080p gaming. 2 HDMI cables into your monitor are the future!

BTW I love consoles to, and looking forward to picking all of the new ones up at some point when stuff like Uncharted comes out. Theres a place for all eco systems.
I think it is only those with little money that actually attempt to argue 'which is better' id expect most older folks on the forums have a pc and all/some consoles so its simply a non issue.
 
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AlecR said:
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. The average consumer just cannot be bothered with taking the time to build, then troubleshoot, etc a PC when they can simply plug in a console and get gaming.
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Yup, my pc is in the mid to high range. Bought cod, can't even play the single player haha. Keeps crashing when I start the game. Least with a console, you know it'll work.
 
Raymond Lin said:
That would be true if you are not going to upgrade a single part of your Pc over the life of the console, for the one just gone, that is almost 8 years.

Who here is gaming with the latest release Pc game with a PC built from 2006?
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How many original 360's are still working 8 years later?

They want to sell another 25million 360's over the next 5 years half of which they expect to be replacements.

"We believe over the next five years we can break a 100 million unit installed base," Medhi began. That's something we're shooting for, it's not a financial plan as such, it's just rough numbers if you will. To sell another 25 million, half of those will probably come from replacements, but half will come from new buyers.
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I was given one in 2006, it died inside 3 months but got a free replacement which has worked ever since.

So, yes, I still have one from 2006 :p
 
PS4 will destroy a PC from a great height, no questions asked

obviously that's a £349 PC with £100 of that used up with the OEM Windows 8 licence so it's legal. £249 doesn't leave much room for the actual base unit.

oh, you mean a PS4 vs £1,000+ Gaming PC....Yeah, PC is much better, but then you'd hope so!

Since PCs are used for lots of things, the proper question should be PS4 vs £349 Graphics card

Here's a £349 graphics card: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-321-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752

Radeon R9 290
- GPU: Hawaii Pro
- Stream Processors: 2560
- Core Speed: 947MHz
- Memory Speed: 5000Mhz
- Memory interface: 512-Bit
- Memory capacity: 4096MB GDDR5

Not sure what the specs are on the PS4? but to get a rough guess you need to try and match the PS4 with a similar graphics card, then you need to find a game on both platforms and try to compare. Obviously PS4 specific games will be optimized for the console, but this is the only way I know of doing a fair comparison
 
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Depends on the hardware..PS4 uses something along the lines of a 7850 which is already out dated but then again still a big jump from ps3. They will do the same with ps4 leave it hanging on for 10 years or whatever with optimisation
 
Kreeeee said:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Man, I needed a good laugh :D

The intelligent console gamers will rent their single player games for as low as £4 per month.
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Kreeeee said:
Man, I needed a good laugh :D
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I said take with a grain of salt
There are ways console players & PC players can save money. My figures are thrown together going on what imo is the average person. Doesn't take much intelligence to work that out :rolleyes:
 
console are great for 2 years then pcs become my main platform every single time. Happened with xbox 360 and it'll happen with xbox one for me too. Still I'll enjoy it for a while until pc games start getting all these direct x 11 features in all games too.

eg: Assetto Corsa max settings on pc takes up 2 780s overclocked and an i7 at 4.5ghz to run flat out 60fps 1080p

forza 5 looks way better but runs constant 60fps 1080p on the piddly little gpu and cpu in the xbox one.

It really all depends on the type of tech you choose to use in your games. If your engine is built for a single platform entirely and what the lowest common denominator is. With pc games the lowest common denominator is not infact the last gen consoles - it never was - its all the casuals with rubbish pcs that also need catering for.
 
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well my pc can run BF4 on ultra in 3D with minimum of 35fps
YES 3D...

I got ps4 incoming on release day just for exclusives playing movies.

I always look at console as cheap alternative to gaming pc...
Top graphic card fof PC is more than PS4 or XBONE...

So if someone cant afford 400 pounds graphic card he should go for console.
You dont need to pump money in it every 2-3 years...


And yes i had PSXx1--> PS2x3 --> PS3 and i can honestly say that obnly PSX and PS2 ware impressive in long run :P
 
I've had:

Atari ST
Master System
Gameboy
Megadrive
Snes
Playstation
N64
Dreamcast
PS2
Gamecube
<------ PC gaming started here
Wii
360
PS3
DSi

Consoles will always have their place. But they are no longer in the "graphics race" like they once were.
 
I expect Kaveri will give the PS4 a run for it's money in the value stakes.

[Edit]Looking at Richland/Trinity I would say they're playable at medium detail on 720p, and you could build a system with one of those for the price of a PS4.
 
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