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Penryn Release Dates and Pricings

Too many people have bought into the "native" thing that AMD used to boast about about their dual cores. Simple fact is that there's nothing wrong with Intel's implementation of quad core as two seperate chips connected by a the bus.

I don't think it's something AMD will be mentioning much when their "native" quads come out and don't better those "crap" 2 dual cores stuck together that Intel sell.

Jokester
 
Native have always been better cos with 2 Dual slapped together in one if one of the dual core needs to talk to the other dual core it has to go via FSB and thus lowers performance. If the core 2 quads were native then they would be better. Espicially if the application was multi threaded.
 
These high efficency type cpu can shut down unused parts of the cpu and native produces less heat and take less power?

Ive read that AMD believes efficency not overall power will matter much more in future. That would make some sense if chips scalable to 32 cores are only 2 years away

Intel on the other hand will only achieve its full clock speed when some cores are shut down so as to avoid overheating, it says on wiki
 
also according to initial benching (in dual quad rigs - so 8 cores) the amd quad scales better than the intel (7x versus 6x).


Will be interesting to see the final performance compared to each other
 
Q9450 is going to be £189 inc vat

i reckon

i think 8 x 450 on p35 boards is poss, and would be at 3.6ghz.
 
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God i'm still waiting to upgrade to a Q6600... damn old machine.

I can't see how they can ask $999 for the core 2 extreme edition when its' spec is nearly the same as the current model...
 
Cr0fty said:
God i'm still waiting to upgrade to a Q6600... damn old machine.

I can't see how they can ask $999 for the core 2 extreme edition when its' spec is nearly the same as the current model...
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ES versions of the $999 chip have been clocked at 4.1ghz on air cooling alone, and has been taken over 5ghz on other cooling, presumably water. Smashed all previous world records, including 3dmark 06, 05, superPI and a huge CPU score of 8000 alone
 
So next mounth when the top-model is out ,.. will it then be possible from this models
to estimate how the cheaper models will behave ? "ES versions of the 999$ chip" is that
samples of the new top Quad model ?
 
Are the any benfits above Penryn from a Nahalem chips?

As the thicker and faster these improvements happen the more confused I get. :eek:
 
i wonder if cheaper versions with some cache removed will come out for the new quads, that would be awesome..... a EQ2160 or something :D
 
silversurfer said:
Nehalem will be much more powerfull afaik
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on die mem controller, still a question if it will be across the range though or just a few xeons sold as xtreme editions(which this time round might just be 771 socket skull train jobbies).

other than that little is known, but, despite this magical assumption that on die will cure all known problems and make the core 10 times faster, it could easily not improve performance at all. interested to find out what other stuff they are adding, but theres not much chance that the on die mem controller will significantly increase performance, at all.
 
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