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Penryn Release Dates and Pricings

Seem to be a little on the steep side, I reckon the Core 2 Duo and Quads have a long life in them still :) No need to panic I think. This got me thinking what are AMD doing nowadays? Intel busting out all these new CPUs and AMD are sleeping?
 
busy haemorrhaging money like a bad thing mate, though their new architecture is out real soon. I think its servers first, then desktop/workstation in Q1'08 - not sure they'll beat top end Intel offerings, but its should get them back on track by a long way.
 
Still no sign of a budget Quad, that Q9300 will likely cost £150+ and doesn't look much different from the Q6600 G0 in performance terms (higher FSB, extra 100mhz, but less cache).

I guess the 'problem' for intel is that if they brought Quads down closer to the £120 mark it would cramp up the C2D range too much.
 
drunkenmaster said:
on die mem controller, still a question if it will be across the range though or just a few xeons sold as xtreme editions(which this time round might just be 771 socket skull train jobbies).

other than that little is known, but, despite this magical assumption that on die will cure all known problems and make the core 10 times faster, it could easily not improve performance at all. interested to find out what other stuff they are adding, but theres not much chance that the on die mem controller will significantly increase performance, at all.
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Ive forgotten my source now but that was the impression I received. Penryn is an evolution and nahelem is a similar revolution like conroe has been
 
Q9450 looks nice but looks like it'll cost £180, pricy... I may get a Q6600 or Q6400 when their prices drop.

I wonder if one of them new C2D E8200's worth upgrading to?
 
Poorly timed release dates maybe? Shouldn't they release before Xmas? I know processors maybe aren't a christmas gift but people will still have more money to spare before christmas than they will in January!
 
PGdude said:
But there should be new motherboards supporting higher FSBs out sooner or later anyway.

I'm waiting to upgrade to Nehalem though.
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Yes but don't also forget that on motherboards that CANT run unlinked memory you have to upgrade your perfectly capable ddr2800 to some stupidly expensive ram. Buying a penryn and overclocking it doesn't look as cheap as we all made it out to be. :(
 
Listen to - Architecting Next-Gen 45nm "Penryn"
Intel? Chip Chat - Episode 2

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Stephen Fischer, lead architect for Penryn, talks of major innovations in the next-gen 45nm process technology, and explains this tick in the Tick Tock model, tock model being the new Nehalem Next-Gen Microarchitecture, new pipe lines and designed from the ground up architecture.

http://video.intel.com/?fr_story=888979a22e9029cd25276311392d3c3fc7db6a4c&rf=bm

Next-Gen 45nm "Penryn" 47 new instructions improving video, gaming, imagining processing - about a 40% increase in all these, biggest step for about 5 years.
 
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Bin Boy said:
Next-Gen 45nm "Penryn" 47 new instructions improving video, gaming, imagining processing - about a 40% increase in all these, biggest step for about 5 years.
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I very much doubt we will see a 40% increase in gaming performance over a similarly clocked Conroe. 10% seems more realistic.
 
upto 10% overall but upto 100% on the tasks he mentioned, I think the software has to be developed to take advantage of SSE4 for that to be the case
 
silversurfer said:
These high efficency type cpu can shut down unused parts of the cpu and native produces less heat and take less power?

Ive read that AMD believes efficency not overall power will matter much more in future. That would make some sense if chips scalable to 32 cores are only 2 years away

Intel on the other hand will only achieve its full clock speed when some cores are shut down so as to avoid overheating, it says on wiki
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i read a long time ago intel were working on some Machine level code something like Intel Exo-skeleton. Basically would allow non multi-core threaded programs to run on multi cores. It would like "learn" the program and teach it to run on multi core. I did a post about it but i think it got 0 replies :(

I think something like that will revolutionise the industry and really make multi-core systems the de facto standard.


Edit: "Has Intel found the key to unlock supercomputing powers on the desktop?" http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32503/115/
 
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busy haemorrhaging money like a bad thing mate, though their new architecture is out real soon. I think its servers first, then desktop/workstation in Q1'08 - not sure they'll beat top end Intel offerings, but its should get them back on track by a long way.
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I thought the server chips were out already, and Phenom was slated for launch with RV790 and R670 next month?
 
Penryn review
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-core2-penryn,review-29714.html

oc maxes out at 4Ghz on 1.4V....... not that great considering the OCs that the C2Ds got, the fact that the initial clock speed is so much higher, AND that the 45nm process will be more vunerable to electromigration. Thats only a 33% overclock, compared to over 100% on some C2Ds.

If AMD can produce a chip that OCs to 3Ghz+ from the ~2Ghz expected launch clock, then AMD might steal the hearts of the OCing community even if it cant initialy beat Penryn on performance.

Interesting times
 
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