Petty? Yes. Illegal? Not sure...messing with a morally corrupt car park

Arsonist said:
No, was a private car park. I did my reading, if an independant rejects your claim (they nearly always do), you're liable to pay. Balance of cost, just paying it would be cheaper than court, so opted for that. Thats the main reason it's scummy - they know they've got you over a barrel.
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a court judgement would likely be 200-250, the chances of you being taken to court are far lower then 40%
 
Arsonist said:
No, was a private car park. I did my reading, if an independant rejects your claim (they nearly always do), you're liable to pay. Balance of cost, just paying it would be cheaper than court, so opted for that. Thats the main reason it's scummy - they know they've got you over a barrel.
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It's not that simple, unfair contract terms aren't necessarily enforceable, and I'd happily argue to a judge that requiring payment within 10 minutes is unfair, when it could easily take that long to find a space, sort out kids and queue for the ticket machine.

The fact they've put in place systems which are designed to make you go over that time (e.g. An unreliable online service) also doesn't really paint them in a good light.

You paid for the parking you used (and in fact extra), so I don't think they would have had a leg to stand on really. My response to their letter would have been "see you in court" accompanied by notice that any further communications would incur a £500 consultancy fee, and that further contact would indicate acceptance of those terms. (if they want to play the implied acceptance of contract game then so can you ;)).

As far as your revenge goes, i'm totally on board with that, do whatever you can get away with, just bear in mind that someone was sued (iirc for ~£25k) recently for an online review accusing a company of being scammers, so be careful what you put online which can be linked to you
 
That is actually really funny. But I suspect they could sue you for libel (for the scam comments) and for loss of earnings (changing them to a waste management site and again for the scam comments). Personally I'd have refused to pay it and let them take me to court. This is satifying but a high risk strategy for no personal benefit.
 
We're waiting to hear back from some Parking ***** who want to take us to court. Bring it on. We've ignored them since the internal appeal. Not heard from them for about 6 months so hopefully they've backed the **** off. I will go full boxing stance.
 
bloodiedathame said:
We're waiting to hear back from some Parking ***** who want to take us to court. Bring it on. We've ignored them since the internal appeal. Not heard from them for about 6 months so hopefully they've backed the **** off. I will go full boxing stance.
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You'll lose.
 
Rotty said:
I didn't say ignore
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Could have been a bit clearer with your suggestion then I guess; you must be aware that ignoring was the path of least resistance to non-council tickets for a long, long time.
 
Rotty said:
a court judgement would likely be 200-250, the chances of you being taken to court are far lower then 40%
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And I guess once you throw in some odds for them actually winning the case too the EV probs looks quite reasonable and court is probably well worth a shot in a situation like this.
 
I'd wager it certainly wasn't a £100 fine either. £35 at most, if paid within 14 days.
 
dowie said:
And I guess once you throw in some odds for them actually winning the case too the EV probs looks quite reasonable and court is probably well worth a shot in a situation like this.
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I'm not sure what they could even take you to court for? He paid for 4 hours, used 2, so there's no loss of earnings there.

Yes, technically he breached the (arguably unfair) contract, but given he did actually pay for the parking, what loss would they be claiming for?
 
Haggisman said:
I'm not sure what they could even take you to court for? He paid for 4 hours, used 2, so there's no loss of earnings there.

Yes, technically he breached the (arguably unfair) contract, but given he did actually pay for the parking, what loss would they be claiming for?
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Exactly! I mean I can see why they need to have a cut off for purchasing a ticket, you might have someone try to dodge paying for a ticket then pop back to buy the cheapest ticket/shortest time period if they spot a warden or in order to exit through a barrier etc.. but it's pretty clear that isn't the case here.
 
dLockers said:
Could have been a bit clearer with your suggestion then I guess; you must be aware that ignoring was the path of least resistance to non-council tickets for a long, long time.
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you would still have a +ve long term expectation by ignoring, I ignore some but when I have time I make myself a right pain in the arse to them (this often gets them to concede), both have 100% records so far for me
 
It's against google's terms to mess with the map markers maybe, but nothing illigal. If you did it with burner account using fake details then there is no one they can chase.

But if their own machine didn't work then surely an appeal should go right through, especially if you did actually pay. I'd just let it go to court (probably won't) if they won't cancel it.
 
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Rotty said:
you would still have a +ve long term expectation by ignoring, I ignore some but when I have time I make myself a right pain in the arse to them (this often gets them to concede), both have 100% records so far for me
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I'm 99% as of last week when I got a county court claim for an alledged contravention back in 2015 :p. Seems registered keepers can now be found guilty...
 
I think you just made a typo OP. Scummers not scammers :) One is libel, the other is a matter of opinion - and we still have the right to those despite the random ravings of the current home secretary.
 
dLockers said:
I'm 99% as of last week when I got a county court claim for an alledged contravention back in 2015 :p. Seems registered keepers can now be found guilty...
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often these old ones are where the "debt" has been sold on, have proceedings been issued? even when they have I have known them get withdrawn if the defendant makes it clear they will attend and fight it
 
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