Phanteks EX cases

[rjk]

Looks cool.... I'll pass that tho.
If they pull out a cheaper version, I might consider it in the future for the media PC only because looks cool and the PC doesn't get to be run at full power with corresponding temperatures.
My main rig will continue to be hosted in 'ol good reliable Corsair 6500D.
Cudos

the temperatures are hotter than an ATX mesh fronted airflow chassis, because of course they are.

youtube sensationalism aside, the hardware is nowhere near thermal limitations and wouldnt be hindered significantly running a little hotter.

People run extreme hardware in tiny enclosures all the time. look at the ITX crowd. It takes a little more planning to make sure your hardware doesnt throttle but there wouldnt be a market for SFF if this was an issue.

the youtubers comparing this case to airflow cases are a little disingenuous with their thumbnail images as most of the ones with clickbaity titles go on to say "yeah its hotter than a traditional ATX case because of course it is"

sure, the comparison needs to be drawn as most people will want to know what difference they are likely to see by moving from a traditional case design to something like this, but in reality it isnt.


The Jayztwocents video suggests from his testing that the TUF 5090 ran at below 80'C in thermal tests. Which is well below the 90'C threshold that a 5090 starts to ramp down clock speeds.
I would wager that most people running a 5090 will probably be wanting a higher end chassis anyway.

 

[rjk]

Having seen the mesh, I'm not surprised. It's very dense and restrictive. Also theres not a lot of clearance between the mesh and the fans/rad/GPU, so the airflow would be severely disrupted too

its not that restrictive. sure its dense but its no different to the mesh on loads of other cases. The only difference with this case is that the mesh is close to the GPU if you use a card at the maximum that the chassis can support.
Most mid range GPUs are 50-60mm thickness 2.5/3 slots which provides plenty of clearance for fans.
Pretty much all of the videos show this case with the biggest most powerful GPU that the youtuber can fit in there, because lets face it... they will just get moaned at if they dont use the most powerful card for testing.

Needs liquid cooling

the plus and max have integrated 360 AIO solutions.
custom cooling might be possible in this case but it isn't really designed for that application.

I wonder how many people will buy these?
The more I see and think about the case the more I dislike it.

It isn't for everyone. Cases are always subjective.

good job we have a huge range of alternatives

 

[eddyr]

Spoiler

the case does not have pcie brackets for the bottom 3 slots of an atx mobo

You might be able to get some lightweight low profile pcie cards in there, but nothing with a port limits you a lot.

 

[Glanza]

 

[Gerard]

Wtf, so the whole case got too hot to touch?

 

[Super Chief]

the temperatures are hotter than an ATX mesh fronted airflow chassis, because of course they are.

youtube sensationalism aside, the hardware is nowhere near thermal limitations and wouldnt be hindered significantly running a little hotter.

People run extreme hardware in tiny enclosures all the time. look at the ITX crowd. It takes a little more planning to make sure your hardware doesnt throttle but there wouldnt be a market for SFF if this was an issue.

the youtubers comparing this case to airflow cases are a little disingenuous with their thumbnail images as most of the ones with clickbaity titles go on to say "yeah its hotter than a traditional ATX case because of course it is"

sure, the comparison needs to be drawn as most people will want to know what difference they are likely to see by moving from a traditional case design to something like this, but in reality it isnt.


The Jayztwocents video suggests from his testing that the TUF 5090 ran at below 80'C in thermal tests. Which is well below the 90'C threshold that a 5090 starts to ramp down clock speeds.
I would wager that most people running a 5090 will probably be wanting a higher end chassis anyway.

I do not run big pc parts in micro cases - don't see the point. I live in quite large house with comfortable sized rooms.
I don't watch youtube.
I don't care how disingenuous people are, I'm only aware of physics and limitations - current aerospace engineer and I can assert some things by my own without too much effort.
That case doesn't have cutouts to mount motherboards with back connectors.
PS. lots of people have the same opinions, so there's that.

 

[rjk]

well that certainly told me.

 

[Drumroll]

I wouldn’t trust him 100%.
Few other cases he “advertised” before as God’s gift to mankind and turned out to be mediocre.
The GPU area I expect to run hotter than standard cases as the GPU will be “confined” to its own area, and despite mesh (restrictive or not that much, who knows?) on top and bottom, I can’t see the GPU fans being that effective as a dedicated fan close to that mesh, be it intake or exhaust, would be.
In most cases, either the heat from the GPU will spread across a larger area, or other fans will do the work of exhausting it, or even positive pressure will push that heat out…
Just curious for some real people using it, and if the mesh is the issue, Phanteks may do like Lian Li did with the O11D Air Mini and redesigned the mesh.
Particularly I would prefer a wide mesh and some air filters that I would certainly remove. It the main concern is to add some protection at the top, I would opt for a solid panel, but mesh at the side and bottom.
Hoping for some crafty people on Etsy to offer some options.