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Phenom II who has built one and what are your thoughts?
- Thread starter littlepuppy
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Its not perfect but it will do.
my bios doesn't have a vcore option
i thought the M2R & M2RSH have similar bios options.
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i guess CPU VID & CPU VID Special Add are the same. e.g if the default voltage is 1.35v and u wanna up to 1.425v, u'll use CPU VID Special Add and put +75.0mv. but what i don't understand is why as the M2R got both.
do u use CPU VID to up your voltage?
Yes, you do, as far as I know. I haven't done so yet though as I haven't overclocked my chip yet. i am not sure about the special add bit though to be honest, maybe it takes it past the cut off point for the VID control, to achieve even higher voltage for extreme overclocking with water or phase change cooling or something, I'm not sure, just a theory.
Remember one thing though, the M2R is a Lanparty UT board, the M2RS/H is a Lanparty DK board, which is actually lower down the DFI line of boards. The UT is the very top, the DK is a notch down. So that might play a part in this, I know my M2R came with duel Gigabit LAN ports and a Transpiper cooler attachment, it also has a full heatpipe cooler going from the mosfets>NR>SR. The M2RS/H does not have it extending to the SR.
The M2R also has a 7 phase (5+2) power setup, the M2RS/H has 5 I believe (4+1) ..and the M2R has an extra PCI-E x4 slot than the M2RS/H does not have. So it is not unreasonble to assume that it has more options in the bios too.
Remember one thing though, the M2R is a Lanparty UT board, the M2RS/H is a Lanparty DK board, which is actually lower down the DFI line of boards. The UT is the very top, the DK is a notch down. So that might play a part in this, I know my M2R came with duel Gigabit LAN ports and a Transpiper cooler attachment, it also has a full heatpipe cooler going from the mosfets>NR>SR. The M2RS/H does not have it extending to the SR.
The M2R also has a 7 phase (5+2) power setup, the M2RS/H has 5 I believe (4+1) ..and the M2R has an extra PCI-E x4 slot than the M2RS/H does not have. So it is not unreasonble to assume that it has more options in the bios too.
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dfi site says the LANPARTY UT M2R as sb600. so how is that the very top.
http://dfi.com.tw/portal/CM/cmprodu...g=false&action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=view
It was the top, for some reason DFI did not make the 790FSB M2RS/H a full UT board. While they may be the 'replacements' for it in most regards, they are not actually 100% swap out replacements, because they are DK boards not UT's. Maybe they are saving the next full UT for the AM3 platform.
I know the M2R is cheaper now, but it was a more expensive board a year ago than the M2RS/H is now.
I know the M2R is cheaper now, but it was a more expensive board a year ago than the M2RS/H is now.
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from that LANPARTY UT M2R to the LANPARTY DK M2RSH board i can only see 2 differents. the 2 lan's and the lower sb.
also i don't think the LANPARTY DK M2RSH board as been out as long as the LANPARTY UT M2R ?
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Well the cosmetic differences aren't great no, but they are there if you look.
It does come with the DFI Transpiper in the box too, you rarely see that pictured though, it's an additional heatpipe assembly you can add to the board to help cool the mosfets or chipset etc. And it has a slightly higher spec power input stage, you can see it has a different and larger HS on it, with the groove and screw holes for the Transpiper. Also note the heatpipe going all the way through to the SR, which also has a larger HS. Look bellow the top PCI-E x16 slot on the M2R, you will see a PCI-E x4 slot the M2RS/H does not have as-well.
As I already said, it is a higher spec board, being a UT. The reason DFI launched the newer M2RS/H was to put out a 790FX board with the SB750 south ridge on. The only thing the M2RS/H has that the M2R does not is the newer South Ridge as far as I know, maybe an updated sound and NIC chip or something too, I dunno, otherwise, it is a lower spec board. Thus me thinking that might be why there are differances in the bios, but I am just guessing there, still, it's a reasonable guess I think.
Edit: Now that I look, the M2RSH does not appear to come with the Bernstein audio module either, the M2R does. It's basically the onboard sound stuff moved to a sperate daugher board, it's basically a sound card that only works with the DFI it's made for.
It does come with the DFI Transpiper in the box too, you rarely see that pictured though, it's an additional heatpipe assembly you can add to the board to help cool the mosfets or chipset etc. And it has a slightly higher spec power input stage, you can see it has a different and larger HS on it, with the groove and screw holes for the Transpiper. Also note the heatpipe going all the way through to the SR, which also has a larger HS. Look bellow the top PCI-E x16 slot on the M2R, you will see a PCI-E x4 slot the M2RS/H does not have as-well.
As I already said, it is a higher spec board, being a UT. The reason DFI launched the newer M2RS/H was to put out a 790FX board with the SB750 south ridge on. The only thing the M2RS/H has that the M2R does not is the newer South Ridge as far as I know, maybe an updated sound and NIC chip or something too, I dunno, otherwise, it is a lower spec board. Thus me thinking that might be why there are differances in the bios, but I am just guessing there, still, it's a reasonable guess I think.
Edit: Now that I look, the M2RSH does not appear to come with the Bernstein audio module either, the M2R does. It's basically the onboard sound stuff moved to a sperate daugher board, it's basically a sound card that only works with the DFI it's made for.
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Which cooler?
i get what u mean now. btw that pci-e x4 is useless because when a gpu is in the top slot theres no way of fiting a card in it... why make them like that?
anyway i been looking on dfi forum it seem like dfi are still adding features to the LANPARTY DK M2RSH bios
anyway i been looking on dfi forum it seem like dfi are still adding features to the LANPARTY DK M2RSH bios
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ThermalRight SI-120.
I use CPU VID most of the time but if you want ultra fine tuning of volts then you use CPU VID Special Add in combination of CPU VID as the CPU VID Special Add has a different voltage table.
Also as some has said to get the most possible voltage output from the board will need both CPU VID and CPU VID Special Add.
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my CPU VID Special Add table goes in 25.0mv's -/+, which is small enough. so maybe that why my bios doesn't need CPU VID.
PWM Control: Enable/Disable to open Voltage control function
CPU VID Control range: 0.44375V~1.600V, Default AUTO by detecting CPU.
CPU VID Special Add: 100.16%~121.25% plus on CPU voltage.
CPU NB Voltage Control range: 0.44375V~1.600V, Default AUTO by detecting CPU.
CPU NB VID Special Add: 103.57%~124.99% plus on CPU voltage.
DRAM Voltage range: 1.39V~2.76.00V
SB PLL 1.2V Voltage range: 1.20V~1.50V, South bridge working voltage.
NB Core Voltage: 1.20V~1.50V, CPU to NB bus voltage
NB PCIE Voltage: 1.20V~1.50V, CPU to NB bus voltage
NB HT Voltage: 0.98V~1.50V, CPU to NB bus voltage
ohhhh your CPU VID Special Add table is different.
mine is auto, +25.0mv ~ +775.0mv, -25.0 ~ -800.0mv. so maybe that why my bios doesn't need CPU VID.
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Your max volts possible to the CPU will be determined by its default VID.
With the MR2 bios with CPU VID Control range: 0.44375V~1.600V, Default AUTO by detecting CPU.
CPU VID Special Add: 100.16%~121.25% plus on CPU voltage.
The Max volts possible will not be restricted by the default CPU voltage.
With max Volts of 1.6 + 121.25%= 1.94 Volts.
i guess thats why i have a higher CPU VID Special Add range? also mine are in mv values not %
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Yours would make it a simpler less confusing adjustment.
The % are not in equal steps on the MR2.