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Phenom prices....
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I divided by 2 added 25% then added VAT. So I think a 25% mark up would be enough
I've said it before and I'll say it again, get what's good for the money, not who has the best logo.
In any case, didn't AMD start by reproducing Intel's CPUs and flogging them off cheaper? Bootleggers.
Edit: To be honest, It'd be good if AMD made something good, price wars are good by default.
It was at IBM's insistance that Intel gave the 8088 blueprints to AMD, so that IF intel couldnt supply IBM with enough chips they would have an alternative supplier.
Infact IBM largely used intel chips in their system, but AMD's were quite often found in the 'new fangled' IBM Clones.
The agreement with IBM also led to intel handing over blueprints for the 8086, and 20286. However things changed at the 30386 and it gets a lot more complex from there onwards. Lots of lawyers making a lot of money, both intel and amd winning and losing cases (Intel won the final round), and then they shook hands and signed a new agreement that both companies would share the basic tech so the hardware and software industires could rely on the x86 instructionset regardless of what chips were installed.
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That'd be 80268 and 80386 that you mean there 
That'd be 80268 and 80386 that you mean there
Aye, he meant 8086, 8088, 80286 and 80386... why they called them such stupid names is beyond me
Intel refused to give AMD technical details about the 80386. AMD sued them and won, but not until 1994, by which time AMD had been forced to do what is called a clean room design, which means they reverse engineered it, then recreated it in a different way so they were not copying it. This continued to the Am5x86, which was basically an overclocked Am486 with more cache. After this AMD realized they couldn't compete by doing this anymore, so they went out and made their Pentium competition, the K5 - their first totally in-house processor. And the rest, as they say, is history
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Aye, he meant 8086, 8088, 80286 and 80386... why they called them such stupid names is beyond me
Intel refused to give AMD technical details about the 80386. AMD sued them and won, but not until 1994, by which time AMD had been forced to do what is called a clean room design, which means they reverse engineered it, then recreated it in a different way so they were not copying it. This continued to the Am5x86, which was basically an overclocked Am486 with more cache. After this AMD realized they couldn't compete by doing this anymore, so they went out and made their Pentium competition, the K5 - their first totally in-house processor. And the rest, as they say, is history
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Hmmm...these work on AM2+ sockets or something don't they? I might need another motherboard damnit.
u can when they update bios's for the cpus...
the only different it'll be is the cpu will run at HT 2.0 in a am2 board .. the am2+ boards will run the cpu at HT 3.0
I've been intel since i heard i could buy a cheap core 2 duo and clock the nuts off it
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I leave AM2+ and Phenom out as Im keep AM2 and just bought X2 6400+ so im not upgrade until 2010-2012 -- new Socket AM3 due next year but new Socket will come up in the future so I rather wait until few years time.
AMD is going to release new 45nm and 32nm die core - that same with Intel as well.
AMD is going to release new 45nm and 32nm die core - that same with Intel as well.
the same could have been said of Intel before core 2, that you couldn't justify Intel over AMD.... now the tables have turned... they can turn back just as quickly
Think about in a few months time when we end up with processor, chipset and, graphics integration from AMD with all of those parts singing from the same hymn sheet.... you won't see it in review but i reckon you'll get a situation where 2+2=5
I doubt you'll see that in ordinary bench marks... AMD chip may still be beaten by Intel chips and nvidea graphics may still beat ATI/AMD graphics... but as package i reckon when the new ATI/AMD graphics cards come out with the new phenom processors.. those systems will run like greased lightning
which would make them almost £100 more expensive than current GO Q6600.... hopefully these prices are wrong
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Would like that to be that case as would like to go back to AMD, as was them for a good 4 years from 1.4GHz t'bird to Barton Xp3000.
For the time being i think i am gonna stay put and see the results when the new cpus come out, from both AMD and Intel and see where we stand.
For the time being i think i am gonna stay put and see the results when the new cpus come out, from both AMD and Intel and see where we stand.
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depends if you were using a english shop keepers calculator to do the conversion rate
How will phenom be priced? Well in my mind looking at the current G0 Q6600 quad running at 2.4Ghz and that being between £150 and £165, I doubt the phenom is gonna be priced above that if performance is worse. (maybe initially for the crazy release prices, but within a week I can't see them staying higher than a quad if they actually want to sell some chips).
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O yer, forgot about AMD getting ATI, i wonder if they will have some kinda trick up there sleaves that will make the pakage as a whole run faster together.....