PhenomTM 9600 Quad-Core?

[gareth170]

no, it does... usually the newer the chip, the more it can do at a given speed. That's why a dual core E2140 can best a Pentium 4 *spit* 3ghz with HT...

even one of the E2140's cores will do whatever the pentium can do, faster, and when they reach the same speed, the gap increases...

It's called IPC, instructions per clock cycle.

but thats intel.. we saying about amd 4400x2 and phenom 9600.... nothing to do with intel..

 

[-iceblade^]

tis meant to be an example of how IPC works... and i'm sure IPC has an effect on AMD

 

[shaggyd]

Err... Ok, what I'm trying to say is that does a 2 year old processor perform slower or quicker than a modern day processor if you forget about multitasking, video encoding, etc? The original question to this topic is will a new chip run games quicker than Ginge51's current processor? Is the future of cpu's moving wider rather faster?

 

[gareth170]

going by this benchmark, its alittle faster in games

http://lly316.blogspot.com/2008/03/amd-phenom-benchmark-triple-core-8600.html

but he still as to get a new motherboard, also ram. because am2 motherboards are ddr2.

 

[Lyle44]

Err... Ok, what I'm trying to say is that does a 2 year old processor perform slower or quicker than a modern day processor if you forget about multitasking, video encoding, etc? The original question to this topic is will a new chip run games quicker than Ginge51's current processor? Is the future of cpu's moving wider rather faster?

If you're talking about standard word, internet stuff then I'd say only slightly. What you would notice is Windows loading far more quicker and everything on the whole being that bit more responsive and on the button.
Games would run quicker, but remember although he'll be getting a quad core phenom, he'd have to buy mobo, ram, possibly cpu cooler as well.
Surely in that case either keep the current setup or if you're going to buy new then buy a Intel setup?

 

[trackrat]

A word of warning for anyone who is about to run a Phenom in an AM2 motherboard, first you have to flash the BIOS, AM2 does not support Hyper Transport 3.0 or split plane.
I Have an Asus M2N32-Sli DL WiFi board that ran a X2 6000 processor, I flashed the BIOS to 1802 and installed a 9850BE.
I ran 3D mark06 on it and it scored 2000 points less than when the X2 6000 was in.
Even some AM2+ boards still need a BIOS flash to get the most out of Phenoms.

 

[gareth170]

I ran 3D mark06 on it and it scored 2000 points less than when the X2 6000 was in.

thats because the gpu tests only uses 1-2cores.. only the cpu test uses all 4 cores.. so in the gpu tests it'll be cpu limited. see it like this 6000+ 3.0ghz x2, vs phenom 9850 2.5ghz x2

 

[theforce]

The K10 atchitecture is faster clock for clock in most games application than the old K8 architecture as far as i remember reading from tomshardware.com
There are games that take advantage of quads like Supreme Commander, and Unreal 3 (and probably all other games based on that engine since the Unreal engine are quite popular). In addition Alan Wake will use all cores aswell. Even if now not many games support quads and number will only rise as time goes by.
As for Windows everything will seem quite smoother especially when running software like video editing, raster or vector programs or basically out of Adobe and Autodesk and similar programs

 

[Gashman]

So no games these days take advantage of all 4 cores?
I'll put this cpu as future proof then.

theres no such thing as future proof, its a myth IMO, i reckon its a load of old bull****, simply because computer technology is CONSTANTLY being improved and faster, better ways of doing things are being found all the time, just get whats best at the time, a Q6600 or a B3 phenom, either will last you a while considering no games really use anymore than two cores, even buying LGA775 isn't futureproof cause its proberbly gonna bite the dust after this generation anyways, anyways just my opinion on your situation

 

[valentha]

On a side note I think the K9 architecture was scrapped cos it performed like a dog hehe.

Sorry couldnt resist that one