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Rotty said:If that's what it looks like then no thanks
actually mate, I'm with you there.
/backs out.
robmiller said:
The majority of my work comes through by word of mouth, I haven't advertised in several years and get offers nearly every week for work. Most of it I turn down but some I out-source to other freelancers and take a cut.
It's taken me 6 years to get to this position though I have no formal IT skills, the beginning was tough but the last couple of years have been very productive. If I wanted to I could earn a lot more but the extra hours are not that appealing.
I'm pretty much in the same boat, but it's more the 'business' side of it that is holding me back over the techy side. Though from friends who are quite successful, they tell me that making a peronsal site that is 'kick ass' helps a lot as a portfolio of sorts.. then start with doing jobs effectively for peanuts, and doing them well.. from there a trickle of jobs will appear and over time will generate into a torrent providing you maintain a high standard and quality of servicerobmiller said:
Dj_Jestar said:I'm pretty much in the same boat, but it's more the 'business' side of it that is holding me back over the techy side. Though from friends who are quite successful, they tell me that making a peronsal site that is 'kick ass' helps a lot as a portfolio of sorts.. then start with doing jobs effectively for peanuts, and doing them well.. from there a trickle of jobs will appear and over time will generate into a torrent providing you maintain a high standard and quality of service
Honestly my personal site gets me hardly any work as it only features a few of my clients and only the very small ones. The problem with big clients is they don't always like to say who really does their sites and therefore I can't mention them on my portfolio site. Being in the right place at the right time helps
If you're going to the interview, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. There'll be some gentle people thereDj_Jestar said:
.I'd love to be earning some of the figures quoted in this thread, especially living in London. Can't say I'd ever really want to freelance fulltime though. As long as I'm earning enough to get by, it's the enjoyment of the job that ultimately matters (this is the line people who aren't being paid enough use).
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I meant using your own site as a "look what I can do" in terms of creating your own CMS or such, not a collection of links to previous jobsz3b3dy said:Honestly my personal site gets me hardly any work as it only features a few of my clients and only the very small ones. The problem with big clients is they don't always like to say who really does their sites and therefore I can't mention them on my portfolio site. Being in the right place at the right time helps
I wish I was! I just happened to see it whilst browsing a coders forum. I'm in London as well, and tbh.. I'm on the less than the smallest quoted here thus far.Augmented said:If you're going to the interview, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. There'll be some gentle people there
I'd love to be earning some of the figures quoted in this thread, especially living in London. Can't say I'd ever really want to freelance fulltime though. As long as I'm earning enough to get buy, it's the enjoyment of the job that ultimately matters (this is the line people who aren't being paid enough use).
Dj_Jestar said:I meant using your own site as a "look what I can do" in terms of creating your own CMS or such, not a collection of links to previous jobs
With bigger clients I wouldn't say in my experience that counts for much but it might help for small clients.
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Augmented said:If you're going to the interview, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. There'll be some gentle people there
And some utterly mental drivers
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You need a manager.robmiller said:
"I'm your manager now"
"What do you do?"
"Take 20%!"
You need to work for someone to get recommendations, hence the suggestion to create your own site as an example of work for someone who is starting out. (I mean more than a single page on myspace.. I'm talking about a display of your projects and so on..z3b3dy said:
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Dj_Jestar said:You need to work for someone to get recommendations, hence the suggestion to create your own site as an example of work for someone who is starting out. (I mean more than a single page on myspace.. I'm talking about a display of your projects and so on..
I realise that, it's one of those annoying chicken and egg situations which I think is getting harder to break out off these days.
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Matt said:Lucky you! Where are you working though?
I know PHP developers straight out of uni on £25k+, but they're in London, and London salaries are a lot more than most of the rest of the country
kitten_caboodle said:Good for you - won't be the case for most though
Uh I think you guys misread my post (or I mis-wrote it). I earn somewhere between 20k and 25k (so my post was trying to say the 16k doomongers are a bit off) but I reckon much of that is simply down to the fact I work in London for a corporation doing very bland government/corporate work, rather than for a small independent firm doing more creative stuff.