Pirate games, anyone feel the same?

Sorry about the thread title, obviously smart assed people are gonna comment on the whole pirate game thing (ie, a game involving pirates)..

my intention with the thread was to ask people how they felt about pirated/free games... and how they appreciated them. or didnt.
 
i don't appreciated any games that i may have aquired - after all they was free. I do tend to give games that i have bought more of a chance and appreiciate them and give them more playtime if i have actually brought it and have a much smaller collection to choose from.
 
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If I pirated all the games I wanted, I'd never put in the time they deserve as I'd have too many. Buying them legit actually keeps a lid on how much time I spend playing.
 
I used to play pirate games constatnly on my PS1/PS2, mainly as I was young at the time and simply couldnt afford originals, but I do agree it stops you enjoying a game as much and I rarely completed games, or even got near to completing them on pirate. Now I buy them, and whilst I may still not complete them I spend a lot more time on them.

For me though, Im quite lucky as I can rent them foir free to try them before buying, so if they are crap I can now laeve them on the shelf knowing they are crap, rather than having to risk it.
 
Weebull said:
No it isn't the sodding "end of", and just adding that to the end of your post doesn't make it so. And I'm also fairly sure that lending CDs/DVDs/Games is against the copyright, and so technically just as illegal as downloading. It's just that it's far harder to police, and not considered as "big" a crime.

If you're borrowing a game of a friend, or buying it second hand, you're basically getting to play a game without those who made it getting any fair recompense for it. Regardless of legality, the effect is essentially the same.

I'm not condoning piracy. I've had arguments with some of my friends over their love of downloading absolutely anything they can for free. Whil I'm not claiming to be whiter than white, I still far prefer to buy the majority of games I play, because I appreciate that the people who made it need to get paid somehow. but equally, I don't go out and buy second-hand games for the same reason.


Why not? We're hardly straying wildly off topic.
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It is the end of. Having an original copy of a game you lend to friends (not for profit) is fine and well within the law. Lending to the general public as a whole or renting is illegal but I plan to do neither of those two things. Someone has paid the full price for it, that entitles them to use it 24-7 how they see fit with in the confines of the law. Think of it this way, if a husband and wife buy a game, do they need to buy it twice to both play it?
 
I found that playing some pirated games introduced me to some titles which I wouldn't have looked at otherwise. I bought Virtua Tennis 3 for both PSP and PS3 but wouldn't have even considered them had I not played an earlier version ages ago on my old chipped PS2.

I am sure I am not the only one who has bought games only to find out they are complete crud. I use this method to have a quick play of games I havent considered before and see if they are to my taste - then if I really enjoy them I will actually purchase the legit copies.
 
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It is the end of. Having an original copy of a game you lend to friends (not for profit) is fine and well within the law. Lending to the general public as a whole or renting is illegal but I plan to do neither of those two things. Someone has paid the full price for it, that entitles them to use it 24-7 how they see fit with in the confines of the law. Think of it this way, if a husband and wife buy a game, do they need to buy it twice to both play it?
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Did you miss my post at #35? If the companies wanted to, they could crack down on lending with just as much power as they do with pirating.

We're going off on a legality issue I never meant to get involved with anyway. My point wasn't whether it's illegal or not (yes, piracy is illegal), it's that morally, there's absolutely no difference between borrowing a game and pirating it. None of your money goes to pay the people who made it.

Using your example, if the husband and wife are sharing the game, and one of them takes it away with them somewhere, the other might as well just copy/download it, because one of them is getting to play it for "free" anyway.

Anyway, apparently I'm a "tool" for bothering to debate this point, so I'll leave it there. No harm meant if I got arsey earlier. :)
 
Weebull said:
From The UK Copyright service site:


According to copyright law, it's technically only completely legal to lend something if you're a library.

Now of course, resale is allowed because the aforementioned "consent of the owner" is implicit. Mainly because it would be silly and unworkable to force people to keep everything they bought, but also partly because that's just the way things are done.

This is a pointless side-track anyway. I'm not arguing whether lending is illegal. My point is that lending is morally no better than downloading, if you're going to play the "I like the original artists to get paid" card.


So? That first person buying the game will still have done so, regardless of whether you rent, borrow, buy second hand, download, or materialise from the ether.

What's VAT got to do with anything? That's not the cut that the manufacturers get. :confused:

But anyway, I get your point and no, they don't, and nobody seems to get up in arms about that, do they?

Also, why do you think new cars cost so much?
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they are talking about public here, you can lend whatever you want to your mates and family, you cant just open up a stall and start lending your music collection out in the middle of the street, however you can lend, swap, give a game to someone you know
 
Yep, I used to have a chipped PS2, and used to pirate games, play for a fwe days, get into another game, and end up never playing that last game again, whereas if I spend money on a game, I feel that I have to complete it or sell it, I cannot just leave it, since it seems a waste of money
 
Weebull said:
Did you miss my post at #35? If the companies wanted to, they could crack down on lending with just as much power as they do with pirating.

We're going off on a legality issue I never meant to get involved with anyway. My point wasn't whether it's illegal or not (yes, piracy is illegal), it's that morally, there's absolutely no difference between borrowing a game and pirating it. None of your money goes to pay the people who made it.

Using your example, if the husband and wife are sharing the game, and one of them takes it away with them somewhere, the other might as well just copy/download it, because one of them is getting to play it for "free" anyway.

Anyway, apparently I'm a "tool" for bothering to debate this point, so I'll leave it there. No harm meant if I got arsey earlier. :)
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Heh, no worries. Morals (or lack of) are subjective :D the law isn't I guess. Apologies if I sounded arsey to!
 
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