plan for collapse of Thames Water

[bigmike20vt]

Mine is Anglian water so 30% increase to 682........ IF that helps to improve infrastructure i am ok with that personally, water and sewage for under £60 a month is ok I guess (though it depends how much you use, i presume this is some crappy average like they give us with energy usage?), but cambridge/Affinity/Portsmouth water as well as SES.... ? like 413x said... WTH?

edit danlightbulb explained some of it whilst i posted!.

 

[danlightbulb]

There is quite a large bill difference between regions of the UK already. A number of companies are consistently at the cheaper end of the scale and it's primarily due to how the regulatory capital value was set for the 1990 privatisation.

And yes these are average figures.

 

[413x]

Even thought dwr cymru is quite expensive. Luckily our bill is quite low.
25ppm usually although it's 22ppm for next 12 months due to being in credit.

Thank goodness it's not for profit. Else it would probably be 2x the cost.

 

[200sols]

Must still be quite cheap?
I've never really looked at the breakdown though.

Not super cheap really. Totals add up to over £500 I think. Its not metered.

Actually just checked, water bill is £260 and wastewater is £120. So not bad.

Thank goodness it's not for profit. Else it would probably be 2x the cost.

Yeah... no.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Must still be quite cheap?
I've never really looked at the breakdown though.

Waste is typically deemed at 90% of usage at a similar price so basically double the water and you get the number for waste.

 

[McPhee]

At this rate, I'm going to be paying more for water per month than for gas & electric

 

[wordy]

Eat the rich.

 

[Oh Ed not again.]

As a customer of SE Water, I'm glad Macquerie Bank didn't own them for a time.

I suspect the owning fund(s) and the amount of money they bled from the utility over the years has an awful lot to do with those projected rise figures.

 

[Sythe79]

Eat the rich.

How about starting with not feeding them, for free ?

 

[Oh Ed not again.]

How about starting with not feeding them, for free ?

Sadly in this case, that's closing the burning stable door after the horse has been bolt-gunned into a fine red paste.

 

[Sythe79]

Sadly in this case, that's closing the burning stable door after the horse has been bolt-gunned into a fine red paste.

Every change has to start somewhere, the water companies are as good as any morally, and with public support.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

At this rate, I'm going to be paying more for water per month than for gas & electric

I already do… my water bill is already bigger than my entire energy bill that includes an electric car and electric heating (heat pump).

Unfortunately I can’t take the same approach I did with energy (make my own) with water, I don’t have the space for a well and a bio digester sewage plant.

 

[bigmike20vt]

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Unfortunately I can’t take the same approach I did with energy (make my own) with water, I don’t have the space for a well and a bio digester sewage plant.

sewage is easy . use the same logic as the water companies. use a bucket and dump it in next doors pond

 

[Werewolf]

At this rate, I'm going to be paying more for water per month than for gas & electric

IIRC our current water bill (well water and waste) is already around 700.
With the sort of price increase they're talking about for my region it could approach our council tax...

 

[adam cool dude]

You can do something. My water bill is the only bill that I do not have on direct debit and I wait exactly one week after the due date to pay it. This has worked for a good few years now. Never get a late letter.

 

[UTmaniac]

91% planned bill increase by Southern Water 2025-2030!

I hope Ofwat tells them to do one, highest planned increase in uk apparently.

Water firms ask for bill rises of between 24% and 91%

Southern Water wants to increase its bills by £436 a year, but is not expected to get approval.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[GreatAuk]

At the end of the day if we want the extra investment in water infrastructure (supply, distribution, and treatment) required to sort out water shortages and prevent sewage releases then there will either have to be massive bill increases or massive direct subsidy from the government. And I suspect the government isn't going to start pumping money into water companies...

 

[Oh Ed not again.]

91% planned bill increase by Southern Water 2025-2030!

I hope Ofwat tells them to do one, highest planned increase in uk apparently.

Water firms ask for bill rises of between 24% and 91%

Southern Water wants to increase its bills by £436 a year, but is not expected to get approval.

www.bbc.co.uk

I wonder how long it'll be before people start digging for wells and installing cess tanks?

 

[adam cool dude]

I wonder how long it'll be before people start digging for wells and installing cess tanks?

The gypsies had the right idea all along. Whenever I go past one of their settlements for the most part they are all well kept. Nice concrete and flash cars.

 

[MadMossy]

At the end of the day if we want the extra investment in water infrastructure (supply, distribution, and treatment) required to sort out water shortages and prevent sewage releases then there will either have to be massive bill increases or massive direct subsidy from the government. And I suspect the government isn't going to start pumping money into water companies...

These water companies are beholden to share holders, last year their profits were astronomical and instead of investing that profit in the business, it's handed to the share holders. That is the problem and has been for nigh on 20+ years.