Poll: Platinum Jubilee

[turbot1984]

Overall, I think that's been a fine weekend. It probably would have been top if I had gone to a street tea party but no-one could be arsed to do that around here.

We had a do in our village, a lovely show of respect. The kids thought it was weird, not me.

 

[Irish_Tom]

If we did not have the Queen as our head of state, every four or five years we would have to elect another grey politician from the ranks of those who've left the House of Commons voluntarily or otherwise. A kind of super mayor who would forever be in competition with parliament for powers.

Better the devil we know and mostly like. Luckily it is very unlikely that I would see a republican Britain and I am extremely glad. God save the Queen.

Why?

 

[UTmaniac]

Liz looked quite emotional on the balcony today, at least she got her strength back to make an appearance after Thursday left her drained.

... And it's all over for another ~4 years, until she hits a ton!

 

[Blackjack Davy]

We had a do in our village, a lovely show of respect. The kids thought it was weird, not me.

The neighbouring village has had bunting and whatnot up and and what made me do a double take a lifesize picture of liz on the island in the middle of the village pond. That was quite a head turner lol.

I've been either working or driving home so catching up on previous evenings jubilee entertainment on iPlayer at the moment which I'm enjoying.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Why?

It's the same logic that keeps Johnson in the forgiveness zone; don't even contemplate criticising the status quo because the alternative is totally predetermined and absolutely unthinkable.

 

[ivrytwr3]

As I said, as an individual human being she seems a nice person, but she's also not changed the world for the benefit of all humanity and the planet in her time, she could have solved world hunger for example, with her influence and money - it seems a wasted opportunity not to have tried.

Wut?!

 

[Hagar]

Why?

Because it is normally politicians, ex. Leaders of parties, ex ministers who get nominated for these Head of State largely ceremonial positions. I suppose they could be seIf proposed, if there are two or more nominees it goes to a national election.
Well before then there will have been a referendum to establish a Republic and propose the dissolution of the monarchy. Parliament will decide the terms of reference for a head of state. What powers he or she has, if any. It will then go to a commission of the great and good to review all acts and statutes in law, determine who owns what in terms of the duchies etc.
Almost like a certain withdrawal act in fact.

Of course we could go all French and chop off their heads. Angela Rayner and Harriet Harman sat knitting at the foot of the scaffold. Watching the heads roll.

 

[Freakbro]

God save the Queen.

I think God is imminently going to be meeting her rather than saving her

 

[200sols]

I think God is imminently going to be meeting her rather than saving her

Old people can linger on in a state of very poor health and generally no quality of life for years with modern drugs. Oak Jubilee anyone?

 

[Hotwired]

Injury or illness that a younger person wouldn't think twice about can be fatal once you get old enough.

But if there's nothing immediately wrong with her besides age and "mobility" she could keep going with increasingly diminished workload for some time, probably with accommodations for mobility issues.

Hopefully she keeps her marbles.

 

[jpaul]

Of course we could go all Frenc

and let's look at the french presidents remit
France’s president is charged with guaranteeing the nation’s independence, territorial integrity and the observance of treaties,
seems just what is required for controlling errant pm's ? prorogue/NIP
(maybe boris will be gone this evening)

Queen needs to be realistic about her capabilities now, as the jubilee has brought them into focus.

 

[Irish_Tom]

Because it is normally politicians, ex. Leaders of parties, ex ministers who get nominated for these Head of State largely ceremonial positions. I suppose they could be seIf proposed, if there are two or more nominees it goes to a national election.

Why even have a separate head of state? Plenty of countries combine the head of state and head of parliament into the same role.

I'm not necessarily advocating for that approach (I haven't given it a huge amount of thought) but it's an option.

Well before then there will have been a referendum to establish a Republic and propose the dissolution of the monarchy. Parliament will decide the terms of reference for a head of state. What powers he or she has, if any. It will then go to a commission of the great and good to review all acts and statutes in law, determine who owns what in terms of the duchies etc.
Almost like a certain withdrawal act in fact.

Sure but it doesn't have to be a binary choice between "maintain the status quo of monarchy" and "elect a head of state from a pool of ex-MPs".

If we're going to do something as extreme as dissolving the monarchy, we could be a bit more "ambitious" when it comes to restructuring the rest of government. Scrapping hereditary peers and electing an upper house of government; introducing some form of Proportional Representation; Modernising Parliamentary procedure; etc.

Of course we could go all French and chop off their heads. Angela Rayner and Harriet Harman sat knitting at the foot of the scaffold. Watching the heads roll.

I don't think we need to go that far but it's a funny mental image.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Because it is normally politicians, ex. Leaders of parties, ex ministers who get nominated for these Head of State largely ceremonial positions. I suppose they could be seIf proposed, if there are two or more nominees it goes to a national election.
Well before then there will have been a referendum to establish a Republic and propose the dissolution of the monarchy. Parliament will decide the terms of reference for a head of state. What powers he or she has, if any. It will then go to a commission of the great and good to review all acts and statutes in law, determine who owns what in terms of the duchies etc.
Almost like a certain withdrawal act in fact.

Of course we could go all French and chop off their heads. Angela Rayner and Harriet Harman sat knitting at the foot of the scaffold. Watching the heads roll.

It didn't cross your mind that if we're moving to make the position redundant then we wouldn't be looking to replace it?

 

[Bassmansam]

I declare anyone who doesn't enjoy the pomp and ceremony of the royals to be a miserable git.

 

[koolpc]

So glad its all over. What a complete waste of tax payers money!

 

[Junglist]

I declare anyone who doesn't enjoy the pomp and ceremony of the royals to be a miserable git.

I enjoy the day off it grants us. Other than that? Zero interest in them at all.

When I think about it, it's not even the Royals themselves I dislike. It's the weird worship they seem to garner and people believing they're genuinely special over any other family. Ultimately, they were just born into the right family and that's where it ends. I find everyday common people who serve their communities much more deserving of admiration than the royal family.

 

[RoboCod]

I enjoy the day off it grants us. Other than that? Zero interest in them at all.

When I think about it, it's not even the Royals themselves I dislike. It's the weird worship they seem to garner and people believing they're genuinely special over any other family. Ultimately, they were just born into the right family and that's where it ends. I find everyday common people who serve their communities much more deserving of admiration than the royal family.

The Royal family serve the community though

 

[RoboCod]

So glad its all over. What a complete waste of tax payers money!

Now get back to work after your 4 days off.

 

[Junglist]

The Royal family serve the community though

Barely. I've never seen them doing any outreach in communities. What service has any of them actually done themselves? Not just putting their name to the work of others.

The organisation I work for serves the most vulnerable children and young adults in Bristol most at risk of sexual/crime exploitation as well as families who can't afford to even wash their clothes let alone put food on the table, along with getting them engaged back into education/work. The social workers I work with work tirelessly and relentlessly helping and protecting the vulnerable of our society... Andrew just preys on them.

 

[Bassmansam]

I don't feel humanity can move forward until we realise we are all equal, but the world is setup to not be equal, nor is it setup to encourage helping each other - while humans exist that see themselves 'above' others, many other basics of an enlightened society can't fall in to place.

However, enjoy the community celebrations & coming together, because ironically, thats a little anti-establishment; if only the many would unite on other fronts.

But we are not all equal are we? Humans are flawed, your trying to see the world in a way that is impossible with how humans how progrmmed.

You are a bit like a salmon swimming against the tide.