Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running

Each persons m/p is different, based on their ability, also known as race pace, based on what they think they will do on the day, so if Fuggan thinks he'll do it in 4hrs15 for example, m/p will be circa 10:30min per mile.
 
@Indigo,

Yesterday was interesting, this video sums it up!

https://youtu.be/m-hCuYjvw2I

Post Marathon +2, calves and quads a little tight but ok once moving but left foot below ankle quite painful, needed painkillers for that, seems to have settled now, actually quite surprised how good I feel two days afterwards!

Have been able to enjoy Paris at least!

I know that feeling, it does get better after a while. It's getting up and stairs that I always find the worst. At least you can still enjoy Paris as well, well deserved. :)
 
how close to your HR Max is sensible/safe ? I was at long hill efforts with club last night- and had to slow down for first time as HR was worrying me

my HR Max is about 182 - last night I was topping 183 before slowing down a bit

not sure if its super unhealthy going over - or not that much of an issue

in races I sustain about 172 or so
 
I know that feeling, it does get better after a while. It's getting up and stairs that I always find the worst. At least you can still enjoy Paris as well, well deserved. :)

I went for a sports massage the day after the York Marathon last year. I could have cried when the physio said the treatment area was upstairs :D

Off to Budapest on Saturday for their half marathon on Sunday morning. Back on Wednesday :cool:
 
how close to your HR Max is sensible/safe ? I was at long hill efforts with club last night- and had to slow down for first time as HR was worrying me

my HR Max is about 182 - last night I was topping 183 before slowing down a bit

not sure if its super unhealthy going over - or not that much of an issue

in races I sustain about 172 or so

If your max HR is 182 and you were hitting 183, then your max HR is not 182 :p
My actual established max HR is 192, doing hill reps, after the first 3/4 of a x14 set I would be hitting 190/191 every rep. Unless you actually felt odd/ill/dodgy I would not let that number reported by your HR monitor worry you, if you have never done a HR maximal test you have probably never been to your actual maximal so don't worry, unless like I say you actuall felt adverse effects from your heart other than gruelling fatigue, which you should feel on hill reps ;)
 
I think my running is getting better but think I need that slightly faster person to run with to see some more improvements.

Parkrun's are great but 9am on a Saturday morning I'm usually out cycling so don't get to many. I've thought about joining a club and might have to bite the bullet and go next week.
 
What trainers are people rating atm for a neutral strike? I'm currently using some 1170 but they're due a replacement.

Also having not properly trained for well over a year now I can safely sayi hate the first month getting back into it lol roll on getting my fitness back.
 
I've always worn Nike Pegasus and never had a problem with them, been through around 7 pairs now. They'll always be my go to mileage shoe. :)

That said have your 1170's ever caused an issue? If not then I'd be inclined to stick with them.
 
I've always worn Nike Pegasus and never had a problem with them, been through around 7 pairs now. They'll always be my go to mileage shoe. :)

That said have your 1170's ever caused an issue? If not then I'd be inclined to stick with them.

No I can't say they have. I originally ran in a pair of Nike lunarswift 3 which I loved but I can't find another pair and I have some Flyknits but they lack any cushioning.
 
Or if you fancy something different and liked the Lunarswift then could always give either the Lunar Tempo a try or the Lunarglide? Tempo being a more streamlined shoe and the Glide being more of a mileage shoe.
 
Or if you fancy something different and liked the Lunarswift then could always give either the Lunar Tempo a try or the Lunarglide? Tempo being a more streamlined shoe and the Glide being more of a mileage shoe.

Lunarglide look like they might be worth a look, I'm not too far from a nike outlet so may go see if they have any to try out. Thanks.
 
Had a good run at Parkrun today and managed to knock 30 seconds off my PB so I'm now down to 21:10. I was a bit surprised to take such a chunk out of it considering I was feeling pretty tired when I got up and I haven't been for a couple of weeks nor even focusing on trying to lower my 5k time particularly.

I'm doing the 10km Miles for Missing run on the 2nd of May so I'm hoping the weather is decent and that it's a good fun run. I definitely need to get new shoes after that though.

Good luck to the folks training for marathons, I'm going to try and get in to watch the London Marathon next Sunday for a while at least.
 
I've signed up for a Half Marathon in October and would like a little advice on how to approach training for it.

I did Couch to 5K from October-January and am now training towards a 10K in just under 3 weeks. My Parkrun time is down to 24:33 and I'm aiming for sub-52 in the 10K.

At the moment I only tend to run 8-11 miles per week across two runs:
* 4-7 miles on a Tuesday, 9-9:30 mins/mile pace
* 3-4 miles on a Saturday, 8-8:30 mins/mile pace
Every few weeks I do an all-out 5K on the Saturday, either at Parkrun or on local roads. Occasionally I throw in an extra 2-3 mile steady run. I also lift weights two or three times a week and over the summer I'm likely to be going for MTB rides once a week.

I've been gradually increasing my mileage on the Tuesday runs on an undulating pattern, e.g. 4, 5, 6, 4, 5, 6, 7, 5, 6, etc.

So, for the HM I think I'd like to do it in under 2 hours which I understand to be 9:00 pace. Can I just continue to do what I've been doing and gradually build up towards 14-15 miles on the Tuesday runs? Or should I add extra sessions? At what point (for an 11th October HM) should I start HM-specific stuff?

TIA!
 
For running a chest strap HR is going to be more accurate than anything on your wrist. So the Polar M400 or a Garmin is your best bet imo.
 
@semi-pro waster

Well done nice to knock a good chunk off as you say and to do it tired as well is even better. A little more left in the tank then for a better day, good luck for your 10K as well. :)

Don't live in London myself but I'll be watching the TV coverage of the marathon on Sunday. Hope Paula Radcliffe has a good race.

@gazareth

I'm guessing Tuesday is the best day for you to do your long runs? The gradual progression you've taken so far with increasing it seems nice and steady and a solid start. Once this becomes an 8+ mile run though I'd be inclined to run it slower and not as close to race pace. Maybe around 10-10.30mins/mile pace. Building this up to 14-15 miles would be good, no need to run any further than 15 for a HM though.

Saturday if it's kept short could be your faster session keep the pace as it is I think, wouldn't increase that to many more than 6-7 though over time.

Any other days that you can run or is it limited to those two days? You'd definitely benefit from running at least an extra day if possible or even better two. Any hilly routes you could do near where you live?

@RobTheMonk

How much you looking to spend? I personally use a basic Garmin model and find it suits my needs perfectly as I only need it for time/distance/pace. My next one will have a HRM though. The Garmin FR15 is around £110 with a HRM if that's within budget?
 
Ran the Manchester Marathon yesterday, new PB of 3.07.06 down from 3.56.48 :D

Started to struggle a little from mile 16 with a slight stomach cramp which upset my rhythm a little and then my pace dropped a little from mile 21 onwards but held on as much as I could.

Buzzing with the result though and not far from a Good for Age time (3.05) so with a longer training schedule and a decent winter base I'll get there and be able to run Boston hopefully. :)
 
Does anyone have any recommendations for a heartbeat/distance gadget?

I've been using the Garmin Forerunner 15 + Garmin soft HR strap for a couple of months and I'm very happy with both. The watch can be slow to get a GPS signal (sometimes 10-15 minutes) so I've got into a habit of starting it off inside and dropping it out of the window into the front garden while I get changed/ready to run. By the time I'm outside, it's either got a signal and ready to go, or it's found a signal and gone to sleep, after which it re-finds the signal very quickly. Having real-time pace data on your wrist is so massively helpful and showed me just how bad I am at gauging slow/fast without any objective data!


@gazareth

I'm guessing Tuesday is the best day for you to do your long runs? The gradual progression you've taken so far with increasing it seems nice and steady and a solid start. Once this becomes an 8+ mile run though I'd be inclined to run it slower and not as close to race pace. Maybe around 10-10.30mins/mile pace. Building this up to 14-15 miles would be good, no need to run any further than 15 for a HM though.

Saturday if it's kept short could be your faster session keep the pace as it is I think, wouldn't increase that to many more than 6-7 though over time.

Any other days that you can run or is it limited to those two days? You'd definitely benefit from running at least an extra day if possible or even better two. Any hilly routes you could do near where you live?

I tend to do longer runs on Tuesdays because I like to keep the weekend free for Parkrun, but I'm not tied to Tuesdays specifically - I ended up choosing it because it gives me a good couple of non-running days either side. Noted on the pace, good to know!

When you say "many more than 6-7" for the faster session, I assume you mean miles rather than minutes/mile?

I could add an extra running day. I've generally kept frequency lower because my knees get a bit twingey (nothing major but enough to be annoying). I've lost almost 3 stone since September but I could stand to lose another stone-and-a-bit, and that would probably help my joints (as well as pace). There are some hills around where I live but they're all at least a few miles away - how would you suggest including hill runs in my schedule? Bear in mind I'd have to run a few miles just to reach a hill (and then a few miles back).
 
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