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Not ran the Amsterdam Marathon myself but went this year with a friend who ran. He loved the course and Amsterdam is very flat as well so potential for a PB if that's what you're after. Even if you're not after a PB it's still a nice place to visit and the weather at that time of year is fairly mild too which is good for running that distance.
 
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5miles on cross country skis yesterday. Today I had another 3 hours OS shoveling snow aim the aftermath of snowzilla, then 4 miles on xcountry skis, the a 13.3 mile run on a mix snow, ice and black top-mostly the latter thankfully. Pace was 8:29 a mile, not bad with the snow.
 
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Not ran the Amsterdam Marathon myself but went this year with a friend who ran. He loved the course and Amsterdam is very flat as well so potential for a PB if that's what you're after. Even if you're not after a PB it's still a nice place to visit and the weather at that time of year is fairly mild too which is good for running that distance.

I have heard good things about Amsterdam as well.
I have also heard that completely flat marathons can actually have unexpected issues if you are used to running on hilly terrain. If you run on undulating terrain then your joints and muscles get used to ups and down and some flat. On a completely flat course you are going in the same impact type for 26 miles.

Personally I can't see it being a big issue, and easier to cope with than training on the flat and doing a hilly course, but something to bear in mind. The solution is to do lots of running on the flat, if you can't, don't see that it matters much.
 
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Cheers!

Will be my first so deffo a PB as long as I finish ;) My normal route is a mix of flat, down and a nasty hill over a 3 mile distance, which I repeat.

It does sound good from what I've researched with maybe Rotterdam being a bigger and better event.

I live in Norwich and you can get a flight there in about half an hour, should be a good weekend, it's always fun.


13 miles running on snow and ice! madness :D good work.
 
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So I'm going to go to the Dr's today to see about this arch pain,
And I know this is crazy, but should I go for a wee run on the treadmill?
I'm just getting concerned about not getting the miles in, and hoping that if I go easy I'll be alright doing a little something
 
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I decided not to run,

But I don't really get any pain while running, a bit of an ease in at the start, it's when I'm not that I feel it.
When I get up in the morning, after sitting for a while. etc.

I think I need more support in my casual shoes, but wanted to check with the doc before I rush out and buy insoles.
Going today, hopefully get some strategy that's not 'have you tried not running?' :p
 
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Got in my fist quality work out since the marathon, a tempo run which I haven't really bothered with before. Only snow over the first and last 0.3 miles:

3 mile warm up, average pace 8:25 mile, average HR 149
6 mile temp, avg pace 7:28 mil, avg HR 164
2.3 mile cool down, avg pace 7:53, Avg HR 157



Felt good to run fast and i was pleased with the pace at the heart rate zone. Was aiming for 165 during tempo and thats what I got, despite the hills.
 
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so I went to the doctors,
I've now got to go for an x-ray, I've been given anti-inflammatory to take, and been advised to get my shoes re-checked.
also no slippers round the house etc.
No running for a week, and I'm to go back and see her to reassess, as there's suspected tendon damage.

I'm pretty miffed at the shoe situation, as they were fitted and rather expensive.
But I have done a few runs in different shoes due to being in the gym and shoes being dirty, so I may have caused it then. I'll take my current shoes to get checked and might need an additional indoor pair/not run in the other trainers.
 
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Did my first park run with the missus on Satuday, just stayed with her as support as she is still doing her couch to 5k. Went back down yesterday with the intention of trying to run it without any walks, and I did it! 9.06mi average which I was expecting, pretty chuffed tbh. Was hoping for 25 minute mark and clocked in at 27 dead.

Looking forward to getting out again this week and then hopefully set a nice foundation at the park run on Saturday.
 
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Now I'm not an expert, but which tendon did they suspect was damaged? If it doesnt hurt when running I doubt it is this.

My plantar fascitis symptoms: go for a run, feels fine. Perhaps later that day feel some pain, sort of a dull ache from the arch of my foot. Wake up next morning, feels fine in bed, step out of bed and nearly fall over due to pain in arch. Gradually eases over next 2 days or so. Go for a run when feels fine, repeat.

Fingers crossed you get it sorted asap
 
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Now I'm not an expert, but which tendon did they suspect was damaged? If it doesnt hurt when running I doubt it is this.

My plantar fascitis symptoms: go for a run, feels fine. Perhaps later that day feel some pain, sort of a dull ache from the arch of my foot. Wake up next morning, feels fine in bed, step out of bed and nearly fall over due to pain in arch. Gradually eases over next 2 days or so. Go for a run when feels fine, repeat.

Fingers crossed you get it sorted asap

My symptoms are very similar to what you describe, But in addition I have light bruising around the inside of my ankle, It is this that was the suspected tendon damage.

The doctor said it was more likely I rolled my foot at one point a bit hard and did this, and between running and football I've probably done it.
 
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I went to a Parkrun today expecting to walk a bit as my leg had been sore from Thursday night.

So I started off what I felt was slow and it was just over 11 min miles which is quicker than I was doing on Thursday. Felt fine after a mile so pushed it up a bit for the second lap and on the last last I got up to 9:38 /mi which I'm really pleased with.

Finished the 5k in just under 33 mins so not my quickest but not too far off. And considering I'm coming back from injury, I'm really happy with how today went.

Did my first park run with the missus on Satuday, just stayed with her as support as she is still doing her couch to 5k. Went back down yesterday with the intention of trying to run it without any walks, and I did it! 9.06mi average which I was expecting, pretty chuffed tbh. Was hoping for 25 minute mark and clocked in at 27 dead.

Looking forward to getting out again this week and then hopefully set a nice foundation at the park run on Saturday.

Well done both on the Parkruns, always good to hear of more people doing them and it's so easy to see progress with them even if it's a deeply uncivilised hour to be running on a Saturday morning.

I shouldn't have gone this week as I was still suffering from a cold/flu and although I thought I was recovering before that it knocked me out for the rest of the weekend. I got some new trainers yesterday though so looking forward to trying them out next week.
 
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Now I'm not an expert, but which tendon did they suspect was damaged? If it doesnt hurt when running I doubt it is this.

My plantar fascitis symptoms: go for a run, feels fine. Perhaps later that day feel some pain, sort of a dull ache from the arch of my foot. Wake up next morning, feels fine in bed, step out of bed and nearly fall over due to pain in arch. Gradually eases over next 2 days or so. Go for a run when feels fine, repeat.

Fingers crossed you get it sorted asap

I'm really hoping I dont have this... Did my tempo run yesterday and felt fine, slightly full ache in right foot before bed, woke p OK a but mild pain when stepping on the floor. Thought nothing of it but was hurting while on my morning run. Not excruciating, but more pain than I am used to from general running aches. Cut my 12 mile aerobic workout down to 8. doesn't feel any worse than before the run but i will need to keep an eye on it.

It just backs up what I said earlier, easy running is safe but as soon as you try any speed work/tempos then the injury risk massively increases from the added impact forces.
 
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If your joints ache like mad then you are liekly icnreaisng millage to fast, which you liekly are because you are increasing your miles by 1 mile a week. That isn't a big increase but you aren't giving time for your body to adapt. You should hold the increased millage for about 3 weeks before increasing again. It takes time to get to higher miles.

the other thing is as i said in previous posts, keep your speed down. You say you are doing your miles in a good time which is a red flag to me. A beginner mistake that I fell foul of was to always try to run hard and look for increase paces week on week. If you are increasing your millage AND increasing pace then your injury risk is much higher, your sore joints are a warning.

Sore muscles is one thing, that is actually a good sign that you had a hard work out, as is feeling shattered, but joint pain is a bad sign.



Make sure when you are running you can easily hold a conversation without labored breathing. If you run by yourself talk to yourself but loud for a minute every so often or sing, o get your phone out and call someone o you don't look weird. Faster running has benefits, but much less than you would think and the benefits can be seen much later in training. Beyond increasing your injury risk, fast running is also simply not effective training for a half or whole marathon, see my above posts.


It is something really hard to get used to, it feels awkward to run that slow, I frequently fail to follow my own advice, and often feel the consequences.

Cheers D.P. I'm running 5k in just a shade under 22 which I'm more than happy with but interpolating that to a higher mileage and slowing down is a problem, as in my head I think I can run that pace knowing it's unrealistic so my splits fall off.

I've has bad knees and joint for years.. Abuse from when I ran when I was younger but i've taken your points on board which is very helpful and encouraging to hear. Basically get the miles in and discard the pace until it feels comfortable.

I'm having a rest this week.
 
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Left knee cartilage decided to disappear last night at basketball training :(

Looks like its going to hinder my progression unfortunately, was quite enjoying getting out to. Docs this afternoon with a physio referral no doubt (which took weeks last time!)
 
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This thread is turning into a catalogue of injuries :)

Had the results of the MRI of my knee this morning. Not sure if good or bad really; I have a 'crater' on the bottom of my femur that is likely irritating and/or periodically catching on the meniscus. Been referred to a sports injury specialist as consultant admitted he wasnt sure best way to treat it - options being fill it with cartlidge, drill into bone, or arthroscopy to have a general poke around.

I am pleased with the further referral - dont really want people guessing with my body if they are not sure. On the other hand, edinburgh marathon will have to wait I guess :(
 
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10.6mi 1:26:21 8:05/mi

Wasn't super happy abut my right foot. feels fine now but the last few miles it started hurting again.
 
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I've signed up for my first half-marathon. At the moment I can just about run 10k at a push with walking but I've got until September to get myself ready.

Going to my running club each week as well as Parkrun should do me okay, I've been advised.
 
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Depends what your running club does :p I will say that I've found, and have talked to a few others that agree, that the push from 10k to half marathon distance can actually be surprisingly... easy. I mean it's horrible on the day, but if you're used to doing 10k runs and want to get to the finish line of a HM you can pretty much just will yourself there. Full marathons on the other hand...
 
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