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Yeah, I've heard similar from experienced swimmers. Technique is something I will certainly lack so I'll probably bite the bullet and get lessons/coaching for that when I finally get round to it.
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Yeah, I've heard similar from experienced swimmers. Technique is something I will certainly lack so I'll probably bite the bullet and get lessons/coaching for that when I finally get round to it.
Soldato
I have a hate-hate relationship with swimming.
I did a Tri back in may. It was a sprint distance so 800m Swim, 16mile Cycle and 5km Run.
The Swim I was 2nd out the pool in my group, look at the results I was middle of the field overall.
Cycling, I was well down the field, I think this is the discipline most people concentrate on, you can probably gain the most time on the cycle.
The Run, I was flying past people, most people seemed to have gone really hard on the bike, and where suffering by now. It was still a really hard 5km I did it in 24mins with was probably 2 1/2mins down on my PB at the time.
I finished 97th out of 200 so I was pretty average!
The Swim I was 2nd out the pool in my group, look at the results I was middle of the field overall.
Cycling, I was well down the field, I think this is the discipline most people concentrate on, you can probably gain the most time on the cycle.
The Run, I was flying past people, most people seemed to have gone really hard on the bike, and where suffering by now. It was still a really hard 5km I did it in 24mins with was probably 2 1/2mins down on my PB at the time.
I finished 97th out of 200 so I was pretty average!
Got my long run (21.3 miles) in yesterday, despite leaving at 6am and running for 45 minutes in the dark it was just stinking hot.s goes were a sloppy mess. Did 11.5mikes this morning and it was even hotter. Opened the front doorat 7am (slept in) and my sunglasses steamed up!
Tomorrow I hope is the last of the disgustingly hot and humid runs. Next week looks like morning lows in the mid 20s, first time since end if April. Might even hit the teens by Friday. Can't wait for some cool mornings and get back to some quality instead of sweatfest runs.
Looked at my "new" running shoes I got at the end of June and they looked well beyond retirement age so went to the running store agibm trying a different shoe, Nike zoom Pegasus. It comes in 4E so.i managed to drop down 1 size. I will see how my ties like it.
Tomorrow I hope is the last of the disgustingly hot and humid runs. Next week looks like morning lows in the mid 20s, first time since end if April. Might even hit the teens by Friday. Can't wait for some cool mornings and get back to some quality instead of sweatfest runs.
Looked at my "new" running shoes I got at the end of June and they looked well beyond retirement age so went to the running store agibm trying a different shoe, Nike zoom Pegasus. It comes in 4E so.i managed to drop down 1 size. I will see how my ties like it.
Good job on PB, shame about shoes.
I know **** about running shoes but IMO, comfort is most important.
Soldato
Socks are, in my experience, almost as important as the shoes in blister prevention.
Yes, socks are vitally important.
I finished the week with a 3mile warm up and then attempted 6 miles at lactate threshold but again it was just too damn hot and I only average about a 7:07 mile pace. A far cry from the 6:30s I was doing in the cool of Germany. After the LT I did some gentle hills for a 12mike run.
Finished the week at a little over 82 miles which is pretty good for 6 runs in 6 days. More quality and a little less volume next week as it should be much cooler. Then a high volume week, then a recovery week ending with a half marathon on October 2nd
I finished the week with a 3mile warm up and then attempted 6 miles at lactate threshold but again it was just too damn hot and I only average about a 7:07 mile pace. A far cry from the 6:30s I was doing in the cool of Germany. After the LT I did some gentle hills for a 12mike run.
Finished the week at a little over 82 miles which is pretty good for 6 runs in 6 days. More quality and a little less volume next week as it should be much cooler. Then a high volume week, then a recovery week ending with a half marathon on October 2nd
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Good to see everyone having fun!
Regarding shoes, I find it takes me about a week for any issues to go away such as rubbing but that is assuming it's a good fit for you. My last pair were an 11.5 instead of a 12, constant issues on my middle nail on both feet so had to bin them.
As we're talking shoes...any thoughts on why I manage to wear through my shoe on the top side with my big toe? It started up on this pair of shoes about 200 miles in and my nails kept trim so shouldn't be that.
When I had gait analysis he did say I rolled that foot a little (so landing on the outside and rolling in), but it was so minor trying to correct it with shoes would not be worth it considering my right foot doesn't do it.
Regarding shoes, I find it takes me about a week for any issues to go away such as rubbing but that is assuming it's a good fit for you. My last pair were an 11.5 instead of a 12, constant issues on my middle nail on both feet so had to bin them.
As we're talking shoes...any thoughts on why I manage to wear through my shoe on the top side with my big toe? It started up on this pair of shoes about 200 miles in and my nails kept trim so shouldn't be that.
When I had gait analysis he did say I rolled that foot a little (so landing on the outside and rolling in), but it was so minor trying to correct it with shoes would not be worth it considering my right foot doesn't do it.
ref holes in top - it just happens - and with some trainers quicker than others (depending on how thick the mesh over the toes is)
I've never needed any break in time for trainers - I'm of the opinion that I know if they are right fit or not after first run
I've had a few pairs where after first run I know they're no good
even though I thought they fitted ok in shop
I've never needed any break in time for trainers - I'm of the opinion that I know if they are right fit or not after first run
I've had a few pairs where after first run I know they're no good
even though I thought they fitted ok in shopOnly 23*C this morning which made my Medium long run so much easier, 16.1 miles. It is just crazy the difference heat makes. In yesterday Lactate threshold run I was struggling with some 7:20 miles at 175 HR, today on the flat sections I was hitting 7:30-7:45 miles at a HR of 145-150.
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ref holes in top - it just happens - and with some trainers quicker than others (depending on how thick the mesh over the toes is)
I've never needed any break in time for trainers - I'm of the opinion that I know if they are right fit or not after first run
I've had a few pairs where after first run I know they're no good
Ok thanks. My first pair of addidas did this and now my asics, I'd hoped as they were more expensive they might be better built but I guess not.
On trainers for me, I always get a small rub off the tongue join for a few days on the knuckle of my big toe so ignore as long as it goes
I knew the pair of nikes I had which were 1/2 size too small were bad, I was just stubborn and wanted my monies worth out of them...
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I never had blisters with any trainers until I got my current pair of New Balance shoes. Have tried everything and even after a good few miles they still cause trouble if i forget to put tape on my heels. New trainers due any minute so hopefully blisters will go.
I feel your pain - I've made the mistake both 1/2 a size too small and 1/2 a size too big - both pairs unusable
some brands just fit your feet better too
I seem to be near perfect in Saucony Guides in a 7.5 (8 was too big and my initial mistake)
yet Brooks - both GTSs and Ravennas - 7.5 too small and 8 feels a bit "clown" like - but ok to run in - just feels slightly big
my advice - if you find a pair that fits and you run in them for a month or so with no pains etc - buy some more pairs before the model changes .....
I'm also having shoe issues. My Brook Ghsot 8's that I got at the end of June were fa;ling apart and so I went to the running store and the guy convinced me to try a Nike Zoom Pegasus 33 in 4E. I have lost most of my toenails so was thinking of moving up a half size but he convinced me that my current trainers were too big and that I should go down a size but go wider. Nice idea in practice but these just are not comfy at all. The length is indeed surprisingly OK and the shoes are probably pretty wide for the length but my feet are so wide I think there i no way around not going up a size.
So went online to get a closeout deal on Ghost 8s and they don't have my size. Will probably just go for the new Ghost 9s but its getting expensive going through all these shoes. Paid $80 for my last pair and they lasted 2 months.
So went online to get a closeout deal on Ghost 8s and they don't have my size. Will probably just go for the new Ghost 9s but its getting expensive going through all these shoes. Paid $80 for my last pair and they lasted 2 months.
About mesh holes - you can patch up the mesh with mesh sections cut from earlier dead trainers stuck inside with some impact adhesive. (my last pair of ASIC trabucos, before they messed up the design, had that issue - edge of mesh gap was just coincident with big nail)
In the UK, anyway, when I then swapped to adidas supernova 5, bought multiple sizes, and tried around the house before sending back the wrong ones.
In the UK, anyway, when I then swapped to adidas supernova 5, bought multiple sizes, and tried around the house before sending back the wrong ones.
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I like the asics, the sole is a little stiffer than I was use to which I like, just annoyed the toe wore through so quick. Might try a pair of the addidas again as the cost was lower and felt almost as comfortable. The nike's I'm just writing off, they were fairly cheap (got them on sale in an outlet mall whilst in the US) but heaver than my previous addidas and the size issue was not great.
Soldato
At what point do you get rid of shoes?
I mean it seems a waste to stop using a shoe at some arbitrary mileage. Strava warned me my main training shoes have done 300mi. If they feel any different, I can't tell.
I will probably just use them until they fall apart!
I mean it seems a waste to stop using a shoe at some arbitrary mileage. Strava warned me my main training shoes have done 300mi. If they feel any different, I can't tell.
I will probably just use them until they fall apart!