Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running
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Well there you go, just by paying annually you've saved about £30 even without a discount code 
I had debating letting it lapse, but it's actually very beneficial with the extra stats and routing elements.
I had debating letting it lapse, but it's actually very beneficial with the extra stats and routing elements.
So first 5k in months and one of a handful since November but pleasantly surprised that could still do it and not that awful compared to old pace (28m:50s).
Away on a holiday this weekend so should hopefully sneak another one in on Friday.
Away on a holiday this weekend so should hopefully sneak another one in on Friday.
Really pleased with the way this week is going. Usually after an event i hit a lull and lose a little interest. Particularly after long events because there'll be a big element of fatigue, plus after the Lake District one last month i got a bit of an infection presumably due to weakened immune system.
However this week i've got out 3 times for easy runs and my HR has been nice and low and felt good. I've also done some weights and a session on the indoor bike last night too.
Still a few aches, mainly in my hips, but feeling much better than expected
However this week i've got out 3 times for easy runs and my HR has been nice and low and felt good. I've also done some weights and a session on the indoor bike last night too.
Still a few aches, mainly in my hips, but feeling much better than expected
Well done on completing the 50 @Martynt74, when the next one doesn't go wrong at every turn, it will feel amazing!
I have a 50 (not miles!) tomorrow. Haven't got my kit ready, training has been sporadic at best and an early start, due to a 2 hour trip up in the morning, followed by a 20 min walk from town centre. That is assuming I can get a space in one of two small car parks that allow a long enough stay.
Anyone done an event at Bingley before?
I have a 50 (not miles!) tomorrow. Haven't got my kit ready, training has been sporadic at best and an early start, due to a 2 hour trip up in the morning, followed by a 20 min walk from town centre. That is assuming I can get a space in one of two small car parks that allow a long enough stay.
Anyone done an event at Bingley before?
Soo running nutrition, how else do people approach this?
A bit of background from me, running for over 10 years. 1:26 HM, 18.45 5k so would like to consider myself a moderately serious runner and currently training for my first 'road' marathon (Loch Ness in October), ever since I've started doing relatively long runs (1h+ plus) I've typically taken relatively 'low' carb gels (around 22g) with me and would typically take one of these every 45-50 minutes along with water. For the most part I've always felt this has been adequate and never really gave it any further thought. However I have found on longer runs of 2.30h and over things do start to become a bit more difficult but I've always put this down to muscle fatigue (and assuming it's just how I would feel after running that far) rather than a lack of carb intake but after after actually bothering to read about recommended carb intake when exercising I feel like I've been doing it wrong all this time
For those not aware the general consensus seems to be 80-120g carbs an hour if sessions are 2h+ and here I was chugging along at around 28ish an hour! So my question is, what do you other fine folk do? Are you really knocking back a gel every 20 minutes during a race?
I generally run quite 'hot' and so will typically run with water in a trail vest if I'm going for a longer run, I tried a SIS beta powder sachet (82g carb) in a bottle during my long run at the weekend (16m, 2x8@mp) and I definitely felt stronger during my run and less fatigued afterwards - possibly placebo so obviously need another outing to test it out. Did struggle a bit with my stomach feeling a bit ropey after as well (everything stayed in) but I guess understandable with the amount of carbohydrates it's trying to breach down.
I've got time until my marathon to at least figure out a plan but at the moment I'm more interested in what others get up to and what your experience has been with varying with nutrition intake whilst racing.
Cheers
A bit of background from me, running for over 10 years. 1:26 HM, 18.45 5k so would like to consider myself a moderately serious runner and currently training for my first 'road' marathon (Loch Ness in October), ever since I've started doing relatively long runs (1h+ plus) I've typically taken relatively 'low' carb gels (around 22g) with me and would typically take one of these every 45-50 minutes along with water. For the most part I've always felt this has been adequate and never really gave it any further thought. However I have found on longer runs of 2.30h and over things do start to become a bit more difficult but I've always put this down to muscle fatigue (and assuming it's just how I would feel after running that far) rather than a lack of carb intake but after after actually bothering to read about recommended carb intake when exercising I feel like I've been doing it wrong all this time
For those not aware the general consensus seems to be 80-120g carbs an hour if sessions are 2h+ and here I was chugging along at around 28ish an hour! So my question is, what do you other fine folk do? Are you really knocking back a gel every 20 minutes during a race?
I generally run quite 'hot' and so will typically run with water in a trail vest if I'm going for a longer run, I tried a SIS beta powder sachet (82g carb) in a bottle during my long run at the weekend (16m, 2x8@mp) and I definitely felt stronger during my run and less fatigued afterwards - possibly placebo so obviously need another outing to test it out. Did struggle a bit with my stomach feeling a bit ropey after as well (everything stayed in) but I guess understandable with the amount of carbohydrates it's trying to breach down.
I've got time until my marathon to at least figure out a plan but at the moment I'm more interested in what others get up to and what your experience has been with varying with nutrition intake whilst racing.
Cheers
I'm probably a bit different as i'm slow, but i find i much prefer proper food these days for longer runs. However i'm slow enough and take walking breaks on hills so that i don't have issues with digestion. Like you mention though i'm a big fan of energy powder drinks. I tend to use the High5 berry one as it's cheaper than SIS!
I would assume that for a marathon you'd be looking at sub 3:30 and so having a trail vest with 2 bottles filled with the above drinks gives me enough. I then try and have a gel or snack every 45 minutes or so and then something proper every couple of hours. For training runs around 2 hours though i just have the 2 drinks as i never really feel i need anything else assuming i've eaten before hand.
I would assume that for a marathon you'd be looking at sub 3:30 and so having a trail vest with 2 bottles filled with the above drinks gives me enough. I then try and have a gel or snack every 45 minutes or so and then something proper every couple of hours. For training runs around 2 hours though i just have the 2 drinks as i never really feel i need anything else assuming i've eaten before hand.
You know what, used to hate hills but now I love them.
Don't struggle like I used to, still haven't shifted bugger all weight, but I'm a lot stronger these days.
If it wasn't for all this heat, I'd be running near every day, that's why I'm still waiting on these prime x to arrive.
No events for now, I'm up London next week so I'll see what parkrun is best.
Bugger about your run, least you did it but yeah always carry some form of anti chafe.
I wear extra long ua boxerjocks and they're amazing for keeping chafing away.
As for long runs, I tend to use tailwind and active root gel mix, sits great on the stomach and gives a good boost when you need it.
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I run in a t shirt/vest year round. I always feel hot, so a bit of rain is not an issue, and it's usually refreshing. Only concession I might make in winter is gloves.
I obviously wouldn't do something stupid like deliberately run in a thunderstorm, but a bit of rain is not an issue.
It’s around 5000ft so you still get some hills. Just nothing too extreme!
Does anyone know of a website which would plot the accumulated elevation over distance of a GPX route?
Lots of websites show the elevation at specific distances and you can kind of work out whether it’s front or back loaded or which sections might be hilly, but it’d be a really good chart I think.
This kind of thing? https://www.gpsvisualizer.com/profile_input
That seems to suggest it does what i want, but when i uploaded a GPX i got the following
What i would want, would almost be to ignore any descent and just show cumulative elevation gain over time, so the group would show roughly the following, with the graph finishing at a level where the Y Axis was the total elevation for the route.
18km - 150m
25km - 520m
35km - 820m
Maybe what i want isn't overly helpful, as the above chart makes it easy to see see the elevation is all pretty front loaded on this route.
What i would want, would almost be to ignore any descent and just show cumulative elevation gain over time, so the group would show roughly the following, with the graph finishing at a level where the Y Axis was the total elevation for the route.
18km - 150m
25km - 520m
35km - 820m
Maybe what i want isn't overly helpful, as the above chart makes it easy to see see the elevation is all pretty front loaded on this route.
Could try here?
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One thing I've noticed looking at evolabs, is how my training seems to come on in spurts, rather than being linear.
It's like every 2-3 months I get a bump in performance, and it seems to be tangible, as I do feel a bit quicker.
Odd how the body works.....
I have a 28 or so mile run in the next few weeks, and I'm currently averaging 4.50 when training, but splits show me so close to 4.35.
So I'm really hoping in the next 2-3 weeks I can make it happen.
It's a mixed run, mostly road so got some new balance fresh foam x V2 coming, as they're trail shoes with vibram soles, but no deep lugs so better suited to this, it would wear out the speedgoat 4's in no time otherwise.
It's like every 2-3 months I get a bump in performance, and it seems to be tangible, as I do feel a bit quicker.
Odd how the body works.....
I have a 28 or so mile run in the next few weeks, and I'm currently averaging 4.50 when training, but splits show me so close to 4.35.
So I'm really hoping in the next 2-3 weeks I can make it happen.
It's a mixed run, mostly road so got some new balance fresh foam x V2 coming, as they're trail shoes with vibram soles, but no deep lugs so better suited to this, it would wear out the speedgoat 4's in no time otherwise.
Don't post in here much as my running tends to be sporadic but as i've put on a couple of stone since working from home (now perm) i'd get back into it. Finding it really frustrating with the lack of fitness! For example my years best park run on Saturday was nearly 4 minutes slower than my PB, i went out for a long run a week back which for me was around 8 miles, my legs had nothing left by the end yet the same route a few years ago i did on my dinner time and in about 20 minutes quicker.
Average min miles has gone to near 11 min mile for long runs whereas was around 9min miles previously.
Just going to stick with it and hope the weight comes down and fitness goes up, i know age doesn't help but my friend is in his early 40s and does iron mans around the world so age shouldn't stop me.
Got myself some Nike Invincible 2 shoes and they're a tadge hot but very nice on the legs, have some NB 1080v11s but find the heel bit never locks down so have put them aside and will just use my cheapo nike downshifters for any garmin speed work until the vaporfly drop in price (usually some minging colourway)
Found running in this heat has been really hard going, even short runs feel like a drink is needed to stay cool and hydrated.
Average min miles has gone to near 11 min mile for long runs whereas was around 9min miles previously.
Just going to stick with it and hope the weight comes down and fitness goes up, i know age doesn't help but my friend is in his early 40s and does iron mans around the world so age shouldn't stop me.
Got myself some Nike Invincible 2 shoes and they're a tadge hot but very nice on the legs, have some NB 1080v11s but find the heel bit never locks down so have put them aside and will just use my cheapo nike downshifters for any garmin speed work until the vaporfly drop in price (usually some minging colourway)
Found running in this heat has been really hard going, even short runs feel like a drink is needed to stay cool and hydrated.