Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running

General shoe question; do people continue to get supportive ("correcting" under/over pronation) running shoes after they've been running for a while? The last lot of measured shoes I had were New Balance 940s, massive heel wedge and 430g per shoe.
A few weeks ago I bought a pair of Saucony Kinvara 3's (wide fit UK 11), it's a neutral shoe with low heel-toe drop and only 240g per shoe.
I ran the half marathon last weekend in them no problem at all.
I had a pair of similar style shoes when I first started running a couple of years ago (Fila Corsa Ottos) and at the time I really couldn't run in them, wore them last October for the Great South Run and they were fantastic.
During that time I had been trying to transition to such shoes and even ran occasionally in Vivobarefoots.
I guess I'm asking are supportive shoes a crutch that support bad feet and you should try and move away from them, or are they genuinely useful as a long term option?
 
I guess that depends on the person.

As your body adapts to running (like it does with most other things), your gait and your style becomes better e.g. move away from heel-striking and into a more mid-foot/fore-foot strike. Also, the ligaments, tendons and muscles will all have adapted and become stronger and able to handle the shock a lot better.
 
bam0 said:
General shoe question; do people continue to get supportive ("correcting" under/over pronation) running shoes after they've been running for a while? The last lot of measured shoes I had were New Balance 940s, massive heel wedge and 430g per shoe.
A few weeks ago I bought a pair of Saucony Kinvara 3's (wide fit UK 11), it's a neutral shoe with low heel-toe drop and only 240g per shoe.
I ran the half marathon last weekend in them no problem at all.
I had a pair of similar style shoes when I first started running a couple of years ago (Fila Corsa Ottos) and at the time I really couldn't run in them, wore them last October for the Great South Run and they were fantastic.
During that time I had been trying to transition to such shoes and even ran occasionally in Vivobarefoots.
I guess I'm asking are supportive shoes a crutch that support bad feet and you should try and move away from them, or are they genuinely useful as a long term option?
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not generally your gait can change, but mine hasnt and im still a neutral, I run long races in Brooks Ghost 5, but at the moment im doing my short training runs in a minimalist Brooks PureFlow2, if you want minimalist shoes there are loads its all the rage at the mo. The only way to tell if you have a problem with gait is to go get proper gait analysis and choose your shoes according to that.
 
Gonna do a jog on Saturday night. My plan was if i am struggling to jog 1min then walk 1min.

I have invested in some new soles for my running shoes that apparently help take some shock away hoping these help with my ankles a bit. Do not know how true this is? Anyone heard of them?

I will update you all.
 
bam0 said:
General shoe question; do people continue to get supportive ("correcting" under/over pronation) running shoes after they've been running for a while?
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I got my gait checked at Sweatshop a few weeks ago because I was getting blisters. I wondered if it was the support in the shoe causing it if my gait had changed after a few years running, but it was absolutely spot on. Watching the video back in slow motion I was landing my feet bang on how the trainer was intending it to.

I think it's totally worth doing though; particularly if you've lost or gained a lot of weight, I'm sure your running technique changes to suit.
 
bam0 said:
General shoe question; do people continue to get supportive ("correcting" under/over pronation) running shoes after they've been running for a while?
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My first pair of proper running shoes were Nike Vomeros which are cushioned. Eventually found there were crippling me, so went back to my LSS (Local Sports Shop) (Bourne Sports). I now have assorted pairs of Nike Triaxs which are a support shoe.
 
Vanquish-Storm said:
Gonna do a jog on Saturday night. My plan was if i am struggling to jog 1min then walk 1min.

I have invested in some new soles for my running shoes that apparently help take some shock away hoping these help with my ankles a bit. Do not know how true this is? Anyone heard of them?

I will update you all.
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Good luck, I never feel like running is that hard on the ankles if u don't change direction a lot, as when i sprained my ankle in the snow I found it didn't hurt when running weird
 
quick question, I am running the Manchester 10K in may, not sure what time I should be aiming for.

I haven't done too much running for a while because the football season was on, when I do get to run I haven't had time for more than 5K. Football season is nearly done now so I am looking to ramp up my training and try and get some longer runs in (targetting sundays). I did a fair bit of running to get in shape for the football season and was running 5K in about 22:30. Haven't lost too much fitness due to the football, I had a day off today so went for a run this morning and did 7km in 32 minutes (didn't feel too bad at the end).

I said on the application I was aiming for 49-51 minutes for the 10K -is this realistic?

I will be looking to run at least 3 times a week between now and then, 2 5k runs during the week and 1 longer on a sunday, initially starting at 7k but moving up as I go along, would like to do at least one full 10k before the run.
 
If you can run a 5k in 22.30 then sub 50 is definitely possible if training is going well. Plenty of time left to train as well.

Still more than two months left. I wouldn't say it's unrealistic to be aiming for long runs of 10k+ really given a gradual build up. Marathons are the only distance really that I won't run longer for than in training. Training for a marathon your long runs will always be longer than anyway but the point still stands. Good mental boost knowing you've got the distance covered and can then aim for speed knowing you have the endurance base for it.

If you want an idea for training paces then I find the MacMillen running calculator (easy to find on Google) a good tool to use.
 
Just received an email that started like this: "congratulations you have been selected to register for the 2013 Bank of America Chicago Marathon" ;)
 
MrMoonX said:
Just received an email that started like this: "congratulations you have been selected to register for the 2013 Bank of America Chicago Marathon" ;)
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Good stuff. :)

Is it a ballot system similar to London then?

I'd quite like to do all of the World Major marathons one day. Doing London this year for my first and will aim for Berlin next year. Boston will probably have to be last due to having to get a certain time which is not where I'm at just now.
 
IndigoGorilla said:
Good stuff. :)

Is it a ballot system similar to London then?

I'd quite like to do all of the World Major marathons one day. Doing London this year for my first and will aim for Berlin next year. Boston will probably have to be last due to having to get a certain time which is not where I'm at just now.
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yeah its a ballot and the first time ive entered it lol

All marathons you can get guaranteed entry with a sub 3:20 or there abouts in a recognised race. Boston is the hardest to get into with a sub 3:05 needed, Id kill to run boston, but im just not that fast at the moment.
 
MrMoonX said:
yeah its a ballot and the first time ive entered it lol

All marathons you can get guaranteed entry with a sub 3:20 or there abouts in a recognised race. Boston is the hardest to get into with a sub 3:05 needed, Id kill to run boston, but im just not that fast at the moment.
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Of course, I forgot you can enter them all with a good time. I suppose not being there just yet it slipped my mind. My London entry is from the ballot at the 2nd time of asking.

Don't think I'll be far off sub 3.20 next year if I keep at it. Will see after London what time I get and see what's realistic. Sub 3.05 for Boston seems very quick just now though.

I need to get London out the way and then I'm starting again in terms of training and going to focus on half marathons for a few months before doing another marathon next year.
 
With the London Marathon getting closer and closer just wondering what folks usually run up to before actually doing the race? I've done about 20 miles at the moment pretty comfortably, not sure whether to just do the full distance in the next couple of weeks or not
 
Goodie said:
With the London Marathon getting closer and closer just wondering what folks usually run up to before actually doing the race? I've done about 20 miles at the moment pretty comfortably, not sure whether to just do the full distance in the next couple of weeks or not
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20miles is the longest I've run before a marathon, you don't need to train the full distance, don't forget to taper two weeks before :)
 
MrMoonX said:
20miles is the longest I've run before a marathon, you don't need to train the full distance, don't forget to taper two weeks before :)
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I thought that it would be enough but with it being my first time I still had that niggling thought in the back of my head, thanks mate :)
 
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