Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running

@SPG

Change of plan! I'd been emailing the guy who organises the runs at Ascend Events and he mentioned it can get quite muddy and that he wears the Inov-8 Roclites. So changed my order the the 290's

Probably a little less cushioned than the Hokas, but hopefully will enable more feel, and with the graphene sole it seems they're very durable which will be ideal as i don't have to worry about them wearing out between now and February.

Also, i've already done more miles this month than in the whole of September so that's a bonus :)


On a sad note, i've been wearing gloves the last few mornings, but when it warms up i take them off and stick them in a pocket. Seems one dropped out :(
 
Hi, I am new to running and I'd say I am about 4/10 fitness wise as I play 7 a side once a week. I am on week 3 day 2 of couch to 5k.

I have read the FAQ in this thread which is really helpful. I need new shoes, I have some Nike Run things, cost me 60 quid but given that I tore part of my Plantar tendons, I want to get correctly fitted shoes. At the moment I don't have much money, I am on Job seekers, so I feel like a bit of a tit going into one of those running shops and taking up their time without any intention of buying some bespoke gucci trainers.

Is it a bit of a **** take to use these services and if I get it checked, would it be worth advising them I more than likely won't be purchasing from them beforehand?

Thanks for the advice in advance.
 
Where would you be planning to buy from?

most stores offer a range of options to suit any budget and often aren’t any more expensive than online.
 
This, at the end if the day they are normally just as competative as online. Every penny counts in your situation of course but they have a range. Often a discount for older stock, being a club member (no proof required) etc.
 
@noizeuk are your current shoes running shoes? If they are, could your injury be avoided if you change the way you run / foot strikes the ground?

I'm in the same boat regarding money and my current trainers are developing small holes, I'm just hoping they hold out before I can get to the local running shop to buy some more.
 
Marvt74 said:
Where would you be planning to buy from?

most stores offer a range of options to suit any budget and often aren’t any more expensive than online.
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Likely somewhere off the internet given the prices, but if the are competitive, then I would like to support a local running store.

SPG said:
This, at the end if the day they are normally just as competative as online. Every penny counts in your situation of course but they have a range. Often a discount for older stock, being a club member (no proof required) etc.
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Agreed, but I fear that the asking price would be north of 70 quid.

Spacedeck said:
@noizeuk are your current shoes running shoes? If they are, could your injury be avoided if you change the way you run / foot strikes the ground?

I'm in the same boat regarding money and my current trainers are developing small holes, I'm just hoping they hold out before I can get to the local running shop to buy some more.
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I am going to get my mate to record my running tonight. Lights going to be **** poor but it might help if I post it here or elsewhere for comment.

I had a physiotherapist say that I was slightly flat footed and that the half insoles I had were OKAY, but nothing beyond those discussions.

Another thing I thought I'd mention, shin splints. I've had them for about 8 years now.

What people reckon, be a bit of a selfish git and take advantage of a running shop, even if I'm unlikely to buy anything?
 
If you do plan on going to a shop, you might want to enquire about the GAIT as I believe some shops charge for the service, but that fee is dropped if purchasing trianers too. So potentially it could cost more or around the same as you'd have paid in the shop anyway?
 
YEs, some shops will charge you for the gait analysis but it is free if you buy shoes, so certainly no issue in doing that.

As other have said, store prices will be the same as online for the most part. In fact I have sometimes found the local running store cheaper with some coupons from being a regular customer etc.

I do buy plenty of shoes online though as I have wide feet that are hard to source locally, and in peak marathon training a shoe is lasting about 4-6 weeks, and I am buying high end shoes. You can get last years models cheaper online. Since I might go through 2 to 3 of the same model + year I can buy online in confidence.


To counter the above, I don;t think getting a gait analysis is 100% necessary, and many local running store will do a poor job anyway, will just suggest a stability or motion controlled shoe even although these should only be used in severe cases and likely with help from a professional sports orthotic. Almost everyone will be perfectly fine in a neutral high cushioned shoe. None of the brands make much difference beyond fit. But this is the kicker, trying on a shoe is by far the most important thing to do. And you will need to try on several sizes within each model, and multiple models within each brand and between brands.

Some dedicated running websites let you order and try on a load of shoes in the house and return any do;t fit. But you often pay return delivery , and don;t expect many discount options.

Lastly, the god thing about running, at least road running to a moderate level, is that shoes are the only equipment needed and even the best shoes are peanuts coampred to sports like cycling. You can also use running shoes for any other walking/sport, and once they are too worn for runnign make perfectly functional every day shoes or for use in the garden.
 
ignominy last night ... overtaken by a guy running with a 3 wheel stroller, looked like there was a baby onboard, uneven pavement next to an nsl road too.
 
Marvt74 said:
Is there anything worse than your phone/watch not tracking your run. Especially when you’ve done a long run :(
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That does suck but atleast you can manual upload :).

How was everyone's Parkrun this morning? My local park was wet and with some huge puddles. Today was a slower run to introduce my partner to Parkrun. Next week I'm shooting for a PB :D.
 
True. But I had no ideal of distance. It tracked around 5m and then I noticed it’d stopped about a mile from the end. But think there’s about 4 miles missing.

Felt great throughout. To the point the last half mile was probably done at 8 min mile pace which is a lot faster than I can normally manage. Especially at a sustained level.

Really loving running on trails. Although being in road trainers doesn’t help on the muddier bits.
 
Marvt74 said:
Is there anything worse than your phone/watch not tracking your run. Especially when you’ve done a long run :(
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Spacedeck said:
How was everyone's Parkrun this morning? My local park was wet and with some huge puddles. Today was a slower run to introduce my partner to Parkrun. Next week I'm shooting for a PB :D.
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Woke up, opened the curtains, biblical Armageddon rain...went back to bed :)

Did some intervals on the treadmill instead.
 
Regarding Parkrun, has anyone purchased the cards / tags or even the wristband / flatband? Are they decent? waterproof?

I'm tempted to get the 15th anniversary flatband (providing they still have stock), which seems a little pricey at first but then the price isn't all that much if they will last for years.
 
I bought the tags. I put it on my car keys and after about a month it was just pretty much a blank piece of plastic.

I rarely do park runs but whenever I go now I’ve reverted to printing off a new barcode.

the bands may be better though.
 
Just signed up for a half marathon. I currently only run 5km. I’m heavy and I just seem to destroy running shoes. I’m guessing I have horrible form too.
The most recent ones I have had are:

ultra boost ST: These have been the most comfortable to run in and are the only ones I don’t get any back swelling at all when I run in them but I’ve Probs only ran 100km in them and used them in the gym and now they feel ‘dead’ to run in.
Nike React Legend (I think): these are reasonably comfortable but I do get sore calves in them. I feel like these won’t be great for me on longer distances.
Nike Zoom Fly: These seem to put my foot in a different position. I’m quick in these but they batter my legs on road. They are ok on the treadmill but again not sure I would want to do longer than 5km on the mill in these never mind the road.

Any of you guys have experience of the best shoe for bigger people? Although I don’t really want to lose any size it’s likely I will as I ramp the distance up and substitute weights for runs so closer to race time it likely won’t matter as much as now.
 
Always the Same answer...

Get down to your local specialist running shop and try lots on.

I am not a light runner at 78kg but brooks gts seem good for me.
 
BIGWEB said:
Just signed up for a half marathon. I currently only run 5km. I’m heavy and I just seem to destroy running shoes. I’m guessing I have horrible form too.
The most recent ones I have had are:

ultra boost ST: These have been the most comfortable to run in and are the only ones I don’t get any back swelling at all when I run in them but I’ve Probs only ran 100km in them and used them in the gym and now they feel ‘dead’ to run in.
Nike React Legend (I think): these are reasonably comfortable but I do get sore calves in them. I feel like these won’t be great for me on longer distances.
Nike Zoom Fly: These seem to put my foot in a different position. I’m quick in these but they batter my legs on road. They are ok on the treadmill but again not sure I would want to do longer than 5km on the mill in these never mind the road.

Any of you guys have experience of the best shoe for bigger people? Although I don’t really want to lose any size it’s likely I will as I ramp the distance up and substitute weights for runs so closer to race time it likely won’t matter as much as now.
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I’d aim for ASICS Gt2000s

Not sure how heavy you are but I’m around 110kg and they lasted me a fair while and through a marathon without causing issues.

I’m surprised you’re hitting issues after 100km though. That’s very little and I’ve still got some old Ultraboost STs from a while back I use in the rain when I want to keep my current pair dry.
 
It might not be 100km but it’s not a lot anyway. I’ve never had a pair of ASICS or Brookes. I’ve considered as I know they get recommended lots but they always just look confusing and awful.

I will visit a running shop.

You have me beat at 110kgs! I’m about 95kgs. Good going on a Marathon at that number!
 
18 mile trail run @Marvt74 - should be fun!

I've been shoe shopping for the Lakeland 50 next year. (what a way to get introduced to trail running! Haha) Plan is to get shoes, train in them and if they are any good, use them or otherwise replace like-for-like for the event if I've worn them out. I bought some Hoka Speedgoat 3 but the size was way off length wise and the toe box would not allow for any swelling over a 50 mile distance so they're going back for a pair of Inov-8 Trailroc 285 instead.

Always worn very flexible and low cushioned shoes on the road so not sure how I'll get on with them. Planned to break them in on the Yorkshire Three Peaks this Friday but I think my last day off for 2019 is going to be used for my Gt Aunts funeral. Will have to go on a busier Saturday instead :(
 
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