Playstation Network

Things change I've changed · 26 Mar 2008 at 17:37

rp2000 said:
NEVER EVER FORWARD PORT 80, 443 to any machine on your network unless you are running a HTTP or and SSL server (neither of which the PS3 is running).

You only need the UDP ports on that list forwarding (trust me, I have them forwarded). I need to check that list as it should only be port 3658 (I think).

Either way it won't affect your download speed, just didn't want to see people forwarding the wrong ports and leaving their machine(s) open to hacks/vulnerabilities.

I believe the last user who had this problem had VM investigate and it turned out to be an incompatibility with one of the modems they supply (He got them to provide their other brand modem and his problems disappeared).

rp2000

just out of interest how would my machine be open to attacks, I've only opened those ports for the PS3's IP address, not any of the machines on my network, or do you mean that the PS3 can be hacked ?, in fact, couldn't you just whack the PS3 in the DMZ ?, I mean it's a console it shouldn't be susceptible to anything should it ?, perhaps I'm wrong and I'm allways eager learn so if you could explain that would be cool.

Joebob · 26 Mar 2008 at 18:51

RDM said:
Was hoping to avoid that, but it looks like I may need to try it. Looks like I need 10m of CAT5e and power drill this evening. I know it shouldn't, but I suppose it is possible that either the Wii or 360 are interferring in some way? Though I am normally getting between 90 and 100% signal strength on the PS3 status page, it just wont stay connected and takes ages to download anything (Update, Guitar Hero 3 update, Lemmings). Also having issues using it to add to the wallet, but that could be an incorrectly input CC.

All in all, having a bit of a mare of a time.

Would it not be easier just to move the console & tv nearer to the router just for the purposes of testing it via Ethernet cable?

or if that isn't an option you could try some powerline adapters, I have used them and they really are very good.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=46&catid=800

Wyrdo · 26 Mar 2008 at 18:56

lowrider007 said:
just out of interest how would my machine be open to attacks, I've only opened those ports for the PS3's IP address, not any of the machines on my network, or do you mean that the PS3 can be hacked ?, in fact, couldn't you just whack the PS3 in the DMZ ?, I mean it's a console it shouldn't be susceptible to anything should it ?, perhaps I'm wrong and I'm allways eager learn so if you could explain that would be cool.

Doesn't matter for a console, stick 'em in the DMZ or open all the ports in the world.

ZG002 · 26 Mar 2008 at 18:57

Sorry slight off topic

Ive been looking at these powerline adaptors.. are they really that good? my wireless sucks tbh (bt home hub) my ps3 is laggy and so is my pc thats sat next to it.. annoying me now.

worth the cost?

Wyrdo · 26 Mar 2008 at 18:59

They're very good. I got a pair when I didn't want to use wireless for one of my machines.

rp2000 · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:01

lowrider007 said:
just out of interest how would my machine be open to attacks, I've only opened those ports for the PS3's IP address, not any of the machines on my network, or do you mean that the PS3 can be hacked ?, in fact, couldn't you just whack the PS3 in the DMZ ?, I mean it's a console it shouldn't be susceptible to anything should it ?, perhaps I'm wrong and I'm allways eager learn so if you could explain that would be cool.

Yeah, I just mean if an exploit is found that relies on either of those ports to be open you could have a problem. Also normally these exploits tend to be web based, and seeing as the ps3 has a web browser it doesn't seem smart to open http and https (80 & 443). A web browser is how most exploits/viruses etc spread so the ps3 is just as susceptible (should people try to think of ways to do malicious things on its browser). The ps3 has a web browser and is an always on connected to the internet device so in security terms it is just as risky (moreso than a 360 for example due to the web browser imo).

I never put a machine in a DMZ unless it is their for logging purposes or testing. When I was learning about remote play which uses port 9293 you would be surprised how many search results were security sites trying to exploit on that port which they know people would have forwarded.

rp2000

ZG002 · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:03

Sounds good to me.. ive got my ps3 and pc pretty much side by side.. would i need two different adaptors?

Joebob · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:06

ZG002 said:
Sorry slight off topic

Ive been looking at these powerline adaptors.. are they really that good? my wireless sucks tbh (bt home hub) my ps3 is laggy and so is my pc thats sat next to it.. annoying me now.

worth the cost?

I would say they are. they're really easy to setup too, you just need one in the wall socket connected to your router and then you can run as many as you want from the mains electrical supply all over the house

ZG002 said:
Sounds good to me.. ive got my ps3 and pc pretty much side by side.. would i need two different adaptors?

You would need an adapter for each app running from it but it may just be cheaper to get a 4 port switch and connect that to the powerline and then another powerline next to the router.

RDM · 26 Mar 2008 at 23:14

Joebob said:
Would it not be easier just to move the console & tv nearer to the router just for the purposes of testing it via Ethernet cable?

It's a big TV, would hate to have to cart it upstairs

Joebob said:
or if that isn't an option you could try some powerline adapters, I have used them and they really are very good.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=46&catid=800

Do these work in extension cables or do they have to be plugged directly into the wall socket? We are a touch limited in plug sockets near the TV.

Joebob · 26 Mar 2008 at 23:32

RDM said:
Do these work in extension cables or do they have to be plugged directly into the wall socket? We are a touch limited in plug sockets near the TV.

The instructions tell you that extension cables may effect the performance but I have used them in even very long extension cables and had no problem at all. As long as the electrical socket is on the same ring as the socket the router is connected to then I don't think you will have a problem.

Dutch Guy · 27 Mar 2008 at 08:18

Did the 2.2 update yesterday, it downloaded in 2:45 (165 seconds) and it installed in 3:25 (195 seconds) in total the update took just over 6 minutes.

RDM · 27 Mar 2008 at 08:31

Yeah, it certainly seems to be my connection for some reason. I shall try and hook it up wired next week (away this weekend unfortunately) and see if that fixes it. Still hasn't stopped me enjoying Guitar Hero 3 and hasn't stopped the significant other watching movies.

Just irritating that the wireless isn't working very well when the Wii and 360 worked fine.