***** PlayStation Vita Official Thread *****

I was going to buy a Vita but after reading and watching many reviews about it I've decided to buy a Samsung Galaxy Note instead. The deal breaker for me was the fact Sony are charging £35 for 8GB of memory on top of the £200 for the console. A total rip off in my eyes and proof that Sony isn't moving with times. If a Vita with at least 8GB of ram was £200 or below I would have brought one.
 
8gb of ram? The 2 devices are not even remotely comparable, one is a phone with very minor gaming abilities and one is a dedicated console with very minor communication abilities.
 
I was going to buy a Vita but after reading and watching many reviews about it I've decided to buy a Samsung Galaxy Note instead. The deal breaker for me was the fact Sony are charging £35 for 8GB of memory on top of the £200 for the console. A total rip off in my eyes and proof that Sony isn't moving with times. If a Vita with at least 8GB of ram was £200 or below I would have brought one.

They can be had for £27 and even less when buying with the console. At first I was a bit miffed that Sony had gone done the propriety route with the memory card. But I think it was a necessary evil. I'm not going to kid myself, I'm sure the main reason was profit but Sony had to do something to assure the publishers this console was going to be pirated like the PSP. And their own memory card along with the non removable (at least much moe difficult) battery goes some way towards this.
 
8gb of ram? The 2 devices are not even remotely comparable, one is a phone with very minor gaming abilities and one is a dedicated console with very minor communication abilities.

Sorry 8gb of storage. And yes they are comparable as they are both portable entertainment devices.

The Vita is an out and out rip off. Come on £35 for 8gb of ram? Is there any reason why Sony couldn't have used Micro SD? I predict they'll get a massive price cut in a few months because they haven't been selling very well.
 
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They can be had for £27 and even less when buying with the console.

Perfectly highlights Sony's dated thinking though. This is 2012 not 2002 and charging lots of money for propriety memory cards isn't acceptible in my eyes. I'm buying a Samsung Class 10 32GB Micro SD card with my Galaxy Note for £30. I could get a non class 10 card for a lot less.



At first I was a bit miffed that Sony had gone done the propriety route with the memory card. But I think it was a necessary evil. I'm not going to kid myself, I'm sure the main reason was profit but Sony had to do something to assure the publishers this console was going to be pirated like the PSP. And their own memory card along with the non removable (at least much moe difficult) battery goes some way towards this.

It will still get hacked eventualy though.
 
Perfectly highlights Sony's dated thinking though. This is 2012 not 2002 and charging lots of money for propriety memory cards isn't acceptible in my eyes. I'm buying a Samsung Class 10 32GB Micro SD card with my Galaxy Note for £30. I could get a non class 10 card for a lot less.


You're comparing two completely different products with entirely different sales models. With the phone, Samsung sells the phone to the middle man for profit, job done. With a console, especially at this early stage the console is being sold for a loss, as loss leader if you will. They rely on the customer buying games and peripherals to make their money.


It will still get hacked eventualy though.


PS3 seems to be doing okay.
 
Sorry 8gb of storage. And yes they are comparable as they are both portable entertainment devices.

The Vita is an out and out rip off. Come on £35 for 8gb of ram? Is there any reason why Sony couldn't have used Micro SD? I predict they'll get a massive price cut in a few months because they haven't been selling very well.


This thread is about the vita, not about discussing and comparing it to other products.
 
You're comparing two completely different products with entirely different sales models. With the phone, Samsung sells the phone to the middle man for profit, job done. With a console, especially at this early stage the console is being sold for a loss, as loss leader if you will. They rely on the customer buying games and peripherals to make their money.





PS3 seems to be doing okay.

Ps3 was blown wide open years ago.
 
I was going to buy a Vita but after reading and watching many reviews about it I've decided to buy a Samsung Galaxy Note instead. The deal breaker for me was the fact Sony are charging £35 for 8GB of memory on top of the £200 for the console. A total rip off in my eyes and proof that Sony isn't moving with times. If a Vita with at least 8GB of ram was £200 or below I would have brought one.

A rip off in what way exactly? A smartphone with quad core GPU/CPU and a similar screen will set you back £500. Trust me, the requisite parts to make a phone do not cost an extra £50 let alone £250.

The other option would have been to have the console at £250-£300+ and have 8GB included which would mean less people buy it and you still wouldn't get one.

The fact that you can get a WiFi + 8GB + Rayman/Fifa/Lumines/Virtua Tennis for £235 I think is pretty good going. On launch day it was £10 cheaper too.

Sorry 8gb of storage. And yes they are comparable as they are both portable entertainment devices.

The Vita is an out and out rip off. Come on £35 for 8gb of ram? Is there any reason why Sony couldn't have used Micro SD? I predict they'll get a massive price cut in a few months because they haven't been selling very well.

Sony claim that the memory is proprietary for piracy reasons though I don't doubt there is a financial incentive also. With the cards not being usable in your PC people cannot easily load unwanted software onto them which might contribute to piracy being started on the device.

Are you predicting the price cut because of what Nintendo did with the 3DS? Nintendo had $8b in the bank and were turning a profit on hardware so had room to make a price drop. Sony dont have the money or the wiggle room on the hardware. A price can might happen, but historically Sony have been very stubborn when it comes to prices of their kit.

It will still get hacked eventualy though.

And if Sony have been as clever with the Vita as they have with the PS3 then they'll lock it straight back down again even after the hacker community claimed that there was no way of putting the bunny back in the box.

Ps3 was blown wide open years ago.

And slammed shut again if I recall. I've not kept close tabs on it but I don't think there is a hack for any firmware beyond 3.55. We are currently on 4.11 and there is no way of going back. It's no where near as wide a problem for Sony as it has been on the PS1, 2, PSP, Xbox, 360, Wii, DS.


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In more on topic news, I'm going to start looking at that spreadsheet again.

The US blog posted a video of a baseballist (Yankees CC Sabathia) playing MLB12 on the Vita

http://youtu.be/lFf8ouWSkCA?hd=1

Unit 13 is out on the US store today, still no news on whether it's out in the UK on Wednesday or Friday. Seems to be on Amazon France/Italy/ for Wednesday, Germany, UK for Friday.

Lego Harry Potter Years 5-7 is also out in the US today.
 
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I agree the memory cards are way to highly priced, but as said you can get a 8gb card with most bundles now, even a 4gb would be ok if you bought retail carts. I imagine the memory price will drop in time so it's really not worth giving the machine a miss if you want a fantastic bit of handheld gaming (as I nearly did).
 
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Can we ban anyone who compares a VIta to a smart phone from now on?

It is comprable to a PSP and a 3DS. I own all of these, and have owned many smart phones and none of them are comparable to a smart phone or any phone for that matter. This thing has its own niche market.
 
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