Please help spec me a £4k gaming rig

[Curlyriff]

That's alright. Just worried when you put something that someone will take it as gospel with the little things like fittings and tubing. I just don't want to spend an hour working out the loop at this stage.

In regards to the 750D then no you wouldn't fit that but it would fit 1 x 240 rad & 1 x 360 rad. Use the 240 rad for CPU and 360 rad for the GPU's would still be better than the stock rad's for the GPU's.

You could though just go back to the Corsair Carbide 540 anyways as that fits the same as the 750D but would allow a cleaner look and better airflow.

 

[Curlyriff]

YOUR BASKET
2 x PowerColor AMD Radeon R9 295 X2 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £999.95 (£1.00)
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £429.95
2 x Samsung 1TB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE1T0BW) £349.99 (£699.98)
1 x Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £309.95
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 1600W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (120-G2-1600-X3) £269.99
1 x Avexir Blitz 1.1 Original 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U24001008G-2BZ1) £161.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-295X2 - Nickel £154.99 (£309.98)
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99 (£215.98)
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £98.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x EK CoolStream RAD XTX (360) £74.99
1 x EK-CoolStream RAD XTX (240) £64.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Nickel £52.99
1 x NZXT Sentry LXE Touch Screen External Fan Controller £49.99
3 x Mayhems Pastel - Red Coolant 1L £14.99 (£44.97)
10 x Aerocool DS Edition Fan - White - 120mm £12.49 (£124.90)
3 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 19/13 - White £5.99 (£17.97)
2 x Mayhems Fine Silver Kill Coil £4.5 (£9.00)
14 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" High Flow 3/8" Fitting - Black Matte Finish £3.98 (£55.72)
Total : £5,067.24 (includes shipping : ).



Honestly I am not au-fait with fan controllers, they take up space, look untidy and I always set mine in Bios for 24/7 operation so I have just picked an external one. You would need to get some y-splitters to run a bank of fans at the same rpm but I think you may well have your own mind already on what you want to do with that.

 

[Ethermaster]

Do you require my assistance?

 

[Curlyriff]

Yeah, good size budget to play with and I can only help so far. You may say I am well off the mark but hopefully I am pretty much there. Assumption was 360mm Rad at front for CPU loop and the 295 X2 exhausting out the top.

Also appears that the OP may be able to save for another month which would allow two thngs, X99 build & full water loop.

 

[Papablu]

Hey Curlyriff, thanks mate, that looks great to me. I'm currently discussing things with ocuk and it seems I may get more for my money if I go down the replacement route with new parts in the Infinity Tesseract system so the Corsair 540 spec system is ideal. I'll go with the Asus Mobo too with the red, white and black scheme but stick to the 3 x 290X cards.

I'll get an email out to the guy dealing with this. Thanks a lot for your help Curlyriff and for all the feedback guys.

Ethermaster I think we're ok now mate but thanks anyway

 

[lee32uk]

I would stick with a Haswell build if it is purely a gaming PC. The 4930K won't give you any extra performance over an i7 4790K for gaming.

 

[Curlyriff]

Double post

 

[Curlyriff]

I have seen the i7 4930k @ 4k resolution make a difference. People have put it down to the L3 Cache I believe however it's only a few fps in it. Just seemed for the price of the build then going for something that eeks everything you can then it would be worth it. As you will see below though it does add £300 ish in the process.

If your going doing the Infinity Tesseract route check which PSU you select with them. I would suggest a bigger PSU as they will drawer allot of power with all the gear.

Personally I would still go for this if I went Haswell Build:

YOUR BASKET
2 x PowerColor AMD Radeon R9 295 X2 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £999.95 (£1.00)
2 x Samsung 1TB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE1T0BW) £349.99 (£699.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 1600W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (120-G2-1600-X3) £269.99
1 x Asus Maximus VII Formula Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £254.99
1 x Avexir Blitz 1.1 Original 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U24001008G-2BZ1) £161.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-295X2 - Nickel £154.99 (£309.98)
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99 (£215.98)
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £98.95
1 x EK CoolStream RAD XTX (360) £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x EK-CoolStream RAD XTX (240) £64.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Nickel £52.99
1 x NZXT Sentry LXE Touch Screen External Fan Controller £49.99
2 x Mayhems Pastel - Red Coolant 1L £14.99 (£29.98)
5 x Aerocool DS Edition Fan - White - 120mm £12.49 (£62.45)
2 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 19/13 - White £5.99 (£11.98)
2 x Mayhems Fine Silver Kill Coil £4.5 (£9.00)
10 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" High Flow 3/8" Fitting - Black Matte Finish £3.98 (£39.80)
Total : £4,752.95 (includes shipping : ).



Notice that I have kept the CPU and GPU loops separate in all the builds also. I wouldn't normally but I have found that the AMD units pump so much more heat it is easier to control them separately with different fan speeds rather than needing them all on full when gaming etc.

Will be interesting to see what spec you choose. Other to note is that the loop will be cleaner with only 2 GPU's that technically you are going 4-way crossfire as well with the above.

Not sure how the cost stacks up once you do the changes but the stock IT with 2No. 1TB SSD's is £3600. Has less RAM that is slower, plus you need to factor in the cost of the £600 for the 3rd 290X so there can't be more than a few £hundred in it for the Haswell build.

 

[Papablu]

Lee, yeah I believe that will be the better option to keep costs down. When I defaulted my oc on the 4770k I barely noticed any frame rate differences in a lot of my games so I think as long as I go with the 4790 I'll be ok.

Curlyriff, that's very nice mate. I do like the Asus Maximus VII Formula Z97 board. I do have a question regarding these though as I was speaking to the ocuk guy earlier and I'm still a little confused.
Is there such a board as the Asus Z97 Maximus VI Formula (Socket 1150) ATX Motherboard ?

I thought that Asus went from the Z87 Maximus VI straight to the Z97 Maximus VII so the Z97 boards are all the 'VII' range ?

I can't seem to find a Z97 with the VI moniker at all. The reason I ask is the Infinity Quasar has the Z97 VI as the mobo and when I spoke to the ocuk guy he thought that was correct. But that board is not listed on ocuk at all other than in that build.

 

[Curlyriff]

That is fair enough Papablu. Can't wait to see her built.

As said the 4930k really only gains a couple of FPS and only at 4K. This offset and the fact it's not more with the 4930k is for two reasons. The 4930K is pretty easy to OC, the 4790K is still a pitta for OCing. Not that it matters much if ocuk will do it for you. But the i7 4790k has better ICP which is why they normally trade blows these days.

If you game while capturing video/recording voice over/stream then again the 4930k would be more useful. Not sure if you ever plan on that but something worth noting.

ocuk got themselves a little confused there. All the Z97 boards are indeed VII, The Z87 range are VI. The VI Formula is Z87, and you want the VII .

 

[lee32uk]

It also seems there are issues with 4 way crossfire R9 295X2 on 4K monitors.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-crossfire-performance,3808.html

Also not all games will take advantage of 4 gpu's.

You might be better going for 3 way R9 290X Powercolor gpu's as you can remove the cooler without voiding the warranty if you intend on watercooling them.

 

[Curlyriff]

It also seems there are issues with 4 way crossfire R9 295X2 on 4K monitors.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ance,3808.html

Also not all games will take advantage of 4 gpu's.

You might be better going for 3 way R9 290X Powercolor gpu's as you can remove the cooler without voiding the warranty if you intend on watercooling them.

Lee,

I have seen that before. the FPS aren't higher than Dual Crossfire. Tri-Crossfire actually has the same issue as the 295 X2.

ocuk are going to building this so no matter what the build is there will be a 2 year warranty.

 

[Papablu]

Thanks so much Curlyriff, I thought that was the case with the motherboard but I've been going through so much stuff lately that I just couldn't be sure. My head's overloaded I'll make sure they know which one I want.

I'll likely be using the pc for 4k at some point down the line but chances are I'll opt for another new pc when I buy the tv so my son can have this one. He's planning on going into game design so it'll be ideal for him at that time. This pc probably has to last me a year but hopefully he'll have it longer than that.

I won't be doing any video/recording voice over/stream at all as I just don't have time for that stuff, sadly. It's all about the games

Thanks again for your help.

 

[Curlyriff]

If he really wants to do the game design then you should really take a hard think about waiting till September for the X99 and the long term.

Sorry to throw that in now but it would save having to get a new CPU/Mobo & RAM. Of course I don't know exactly how far ahead you are talking about as you haven't mentioned.

And no problem.

 

[Curlyriff]

p.s are you looking for adoption applicants

 

[Papablu]

lol, I have 4 kids and one on the way in a few weeks times already That's not including my two grown up daughters

I reckon it'll be about this time next year that I'll buy a new pc, depending on what new cards become available and if there's a large enough leap in performance to warrant the change.

Lee, thanks for the input mate. I've spoke to ocuk and we both feel that it would be best to go with 3 way R9 290X again. I was blown away with the power of the cards and playing Tomb Raider the other day (before my pc blew) was just like More than enough power to run everything I've asked of those cards. This pc gaming lark never fails to amaze me.

 

[snakefood]

good reading, could you post some pikkies once you get build finished?

 

[Curlyriff]

This is why PC gaming is so fun. So many options and all for different people.

Looking forward to seeing this beast get built.



Papblu, fair play on the children. If you need a babysitter (for the PC, to protect it from the children) let me know

 

[Quartz]

I don't know if the tubing is long enough, but the OP might consider an Aerocool DS mATX case with 2x 295x2 and a Corsair H60 or similar. No-fuss cooling systems.

 

[Papablu]

lol, Curlyriff I do need a babysitter for when the wife goes in to have the baby, my pc will be at the mercy of the kids and the two younger ones are totally nuts That's my main worry to be honest. The wife will get over the pain but what happens if the kids get hold of my pc

As for pics, yes I'll get pics when I get the new rig and I'll also get more as I add things over the next months. Here you can see why the pc has to be a specific size. This is what it looked like yesterday.

Eventually I'll be building the pc into those units. The upper cupboard will meet the lower TV bench and the pc will 'be' that cupboard if you get my drift. Glass fronted and all water cooled inside. But that will be the pc that follows this one. The system at the moment is more like my 'learner' system. Getting the hang of how it all works before diving in to a big project like that. I need the security of a warranty for this pc as my son, who will get this one, tends to break stuff too often. I gave him a set of Sharkoon Extatic headphones the other week and told him to be careful with them. A week later they were ruined because he chewed through the lead. He's got some odd habits I reckon he was a dog in a past life.