Please turn off the TV

Looking forward to all the big-brains, who've spent years demonising people for having too many kids, pivot to demonising them for having too few.

If you want people to have kids, make it affordable, make it welcoming, offer supportive structures, and recognise it as a worthy pursuit.
 
cheesyboy said:
Looking forward to all the big-brains, who've spent years demonising people for having too many kids, pivot to demonising them for having too few.

If you want people to have kids, make it affordable, make it welcoming, offer supportive structures, and recognise it as a worthy pursuit.
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Explain welcoming? Do you expect like someone inviting you in? Flowers? Dinner before the deed?
 
cheesyboy said:
Britain, as a country, ******* hates kids. Just an awful attitude towards young people. You don't see it elsewhere.
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A lot of kids act like ***** because they know there are no consequences for them and lots of consequences for anyone who tries to tell them off. Probably don’t see that elsewhere either.

So now we’re on the verge of demographic collapse people think it might be a problem. Bit late now.
 
I have already had my fair share of children thanks, glad I got the snip after 5 of them.

I'll leave that to others, I'll just enjoy the first part please :cry:
 
Need more cannonfodder children, yep, the future armies aren't going to populate themselves. The rich need protecting m'kay?

One could argue that the people who shouldn't be having kids are.
 
As others have said, cost, time and energy to have kids has made it less attractive and the people having a lot of the kids are the last people you want to have them. An ageing and declining population that wants to suck up more and more wealth and an economy that relies on an ever expanding population to pay for the maintenance of the country and its ageing population. Never a good combination.

We don't hate children in this country but we don't encourage the right people to be having children and we don't support parents who want to contribute to society and raise good kids.
 
We could always encourage young workers and their families to move to the UK.

If only there was an easy way to facilitate such an idea.
 
No kids for me and the gf.

Main reason is time/commitment


But for me there's a huge list
-freedom
I'm only just on my feet at late 30s, got house etc just want to have holidays and live a bit now

-time
My hobbies are not kid friendly. If weather is good on the day I want to go out on bike/kayak. This can easily write off a day. Just can't do that with kids.

-cost
Cost of living is horrendous, adding kids just makes that so so much harder

-risk of birth defects
Its life changing. Got a few step siblings who have to deal with this

-environment
both impact of having kids damaging the environment
The future of the environment, what will kids now inherit in terms of state of the planet

- my Anxiety/depression
This runs deep in the family, sometimes I just have spells where I really struggle. Don't want to throw the responsibility of kids into the mix


I feel lucky I don't actually want kids. Because I think I'd be a terrible parent. And that's the worst thing. Seeing kids with bad parents. It's so sad.


More people just don't want kids now vs past. But cost of living is stopping people have them who do want them. My sister may well get bitten by this. She wants them. But wants to be on the property ladder before. Look where that is now.



Token gestures like a few thousand is not going to persuade anyone to have kids who doesn't. Maybe more free child care, support will for those who want but can't afford them. But I don't see any other option but immigration to realistically plug the demographic time bomb.


I'd go so far to say I see no positives for myself personally to have kids. None.
It would be easy to think I hate kids. But I really don't. They just do not fit my life style, my position in life, and I have no paternal instinct either.
 
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