Poker question

Don
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Just been in a tournament at PP and the following happened


After the river there are 3 players left in

I am first to act and bet 600

Next player goes all in 694

Player 3 calls 694

When it comes back to me I only have the option to call the extra 94 or to fold

Why did I not have the option to re raise ?
 
Is it a trick question Rotty? I'm sure that you had that option, maybe a glitch in the software. A side pot should have been available if you wanted to raise.
 
Rotty said:
the 3rd player had more chips though

True. Ive never played it for money, but i always played it as if one person goes all in then all raising stops, but i do know what you mean, and it should have been done really.
 
Stellios said:
True. Ive never played it for money, but i always played it as if one person goes all in then all raising stops, but i do know what you mean, and it should have been done really.

others can raise beyond an all in and create a side pot ( or multiple side pots )
 
Did you have a further 600 back? if you only had 500 or so left then they would limit you to an all in or nowt.
 
Ah, a poker thread. Yummy.

OK. There is no glitch. The software is working fine. Because the small-stack's all-in raise was an under-raise (less than the amount you bet) you are not given the option to reraise because it would be unfair to any other players in the pot. The ONLY time you can under-raise is when you are throwing your last few chips in the pot. Normally a raise has to be at least what what bet or raised earlier on that circuit of betting.

If you are sure that the small stack is going to stay in, you should have bet just less or exactly half of what the small stack had. Then if he decides he wants to stay in, he'd probably push the last of his chips in anyway, meaning you'd now have a chance to re-raise as his bet would now be a raise rather than an under-raise.

I hope that makes sense. It is awfully early for me.
 
Serpico said:
Ah, a poker thread. Yummy.

OK. There is no glitch. The software is working fine. Because the small-stack's all-in raise was an under-raise (less than the amount you bet) you are not given the option to reraise because it would be unfair to any other players in the pot. The ONLY time you can under-raise is when you are throwing your last few chips in the pot. Normally a raise has to be at least what what bet or raised earlier on that circuit of betting.

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I had thought of that as the only possibility, I have never come across this but then that is probably just due to the situation never having occurred before ( or at least one in which I wanted to re raise )

I think you are correct in what you say but it seems little known, no one at the table last night seemed to understand this
 
that is correct, it has happened to me in a live tournament - you can elimanate this problem but you must pay attention to the short stacks still in the hand...
 
It's reading threads like this that make me realise how little I still really know about poker.

I'm minded to recall the old "There is a fool in every game...if you don't know who the fool is, odds are, it's you" ;)
 
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