Poles, Polish workers.
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B@Th*nG said:
Proof would be a wonderful thing...
It's strange how many feel free to generalise or be prejudiced as long as a group they identify with are the victim of it. You have to ask about the way a person who is willing to do this sees themselves
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managers from asda go over specifically to recruit them.
the poles then fly over and start at asda 2 days after they arrive here.
i work with around 200-300 at 'one' depot... out of 700 total workers.
the poles then fly over and start at asda 2 days after they arrive here.
i work with around 200-300 at 'one' depot... out of 700 total workers.
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oh and 90% of the polish girls are fiiiiiiine. i would without a doubt.
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TrUz said:
quoted for truth... snob culture. this country makes it financially easier to go on the dole than get a job.
The cost to the business will probably be the same if they are dealing with an agency to supply their workforce as they will be charged a set fee per hour for each worker. The difference is the agency will make more money filling the position with a Pole than an English worker purely because they can offer the Pole less per hour.
Do you honestly blame people for living off benefits when they can get vertually the same amount of money for doing naff all as they would going out and earning minimum wage?
I've got a friend who is a single mother of 3 and she's been told several times by various people working for the benefits section that she'd be better off jacking in her job and just claiming benefit, and that is mostly down to rent and council tax she has to pay each month. They would pay all of it if she was on benefit but because she wants to work and earn her own money they pay virtually nothing towards it, even though she earns shockingly little.
The sad fact is if it wasn't for her friends helping her out now and again she would have debt collectors knocking on her doorstep, and its not like she is wasting her money, these are basic requirements such as electric and water bills that she has to pay for. She had to make a choice the other day, pay her electric bill of buy food for her and the kids. Why should she have to make those choices in the first place? She needs a new sofa at the moment and theres not a chance in hell she will be able to afford one. Its a sofa for gods sake, not a sports car, not a holiday a bloody sofa.
The fact that I'm going to help her out with the sofa isn't the point. The point is that she has to live in that situation just because she refuses to give up work and claim benefits. It makes me so angry.
Do you honestly blame people for living off benefits when they can get vertually the same amount of money for doing naff all as they would going out and earning minimum wage?
I've got a friend who is a single mother of 3 and she's been told several times by various people working for the benefits section that she'd be better off jacking in her job and just claiming benefit, and that is mostly down to rent and council tax she has to pay each month. They would pay all of it if she was on benefit but because she wants to work and earn her own money they pay virtually nothing towards it, even though she earns shockingly little.
The sad fact is if it wasn't for her friends helping her out now and again she would have debt collectors knocking on her doorstep, and its not like she is wasting her money, these are basic requirements such as electric and water bills that she has to pay for. She had to make a choice the other day, pay her electric bill of buy food for her and the kids. Why should she have to make those choices in the first place? She needs a new sofa at the moment and theres not a chance in hell she will be able to afford one. Its a sofa for gods sake, not a sports car, not a holiday a bloody sofa.
The fact that I'm going to help her out with the sofa isn't the point. The point is that she has to live in that situation just because she refuses to give up work and claim benefits. It makes me so angry.
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dirtydog said:Really? Please explain that
wish i could explain it... i know people who have kids and knocked their hours down to nothing as they get more in benefits/less in taxes and so they sit at home earning the same...
my sister is a prime example... single parent... she wants to work but shes been told (by an official) she is better off at home as she has to pay child care/nursery and cant work many hours due to childminding. she would get as much in benefits if she didnt work, but she wants to. it annoys her more than me...
I'm sorry, I thought you said dole... single parents don't claim the dole, they claim benefits which are far more generous than the dole by dint of having kids. Single people on the dole do not live the life of riley despite popular belief to the contraryhelpimcrap said:
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dirtydog said:Really? Please explain that
Perhaps after that someone could explain where the 'lazy Brit' concept comes from, why they think the phenomenon is restricted to Brits, why Goatboy suggested that it was actually ethnically English people (English isn't a nationality) who were lazy and why everyone thinks its okay to be positively prejudiced or to generalise positively ...
DirtyDog said:
Those lazy Brits who are constantly having jobs thrown at them that they are just too LAZY to do... can't a man walk down the street without having a job offered to him?
Goatboy is one of those members who posts once or twice in immigration threads, has his 'arguments' shown to be nonsense and then doesn't post again - until the next thread on the subjectcleanbluesky said:
Indeed, they should take a leaf out of the Hard Working Immigrants™' books
You can claim housing benefit while working of course... legally. In London and the southeast (where the cost of housing is highest) you would be able to work full time on minimum wage, and claim HB+CTB on top.johnny6 said:
It is true that otherwise you would be no better off than being on the dole, and that situation is made worse by immigration, without which wages would be higher. Mass immigration only benefits business, not the country and not the public.
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the quickest google ever found:cleanbluesky said:
http://www.supermarket-sweep-up.com/?p=24
it's too early for psychoanalysis plus it's UNIVERSALLY accepted that the britsh are dog rough, get over it. or do you want proof of that as well? perhaps a hotty head count? having travelled to a vast array of different locations i have to say that there are definately worse places (although they are few and far between) - but these are nowhere near as economically strong. It's as if there is a large majority of british women (and men) who seem to WANT to make themselves look worse.cleanbluesky said:
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i don't identify with the group either, i consider myself way above that (evidently).
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