Police and Courts fit for purpose?

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Can Arslan jailed for murdering neighbour Matthew Boorman

"Monster next door" Can Arslan had terrorised his neighbours for years before stabbing Matthew Boorman.
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This statement stuck with me:

Judge Cutts told the court the neighbours sought legal action in the months leading up to murder because they "felt unsafe in their own homes".
"They made every attempt they could within the law to prevent you (Arslan) behaving this way. A community protection notice, a council injunction," she said.

These people did everything they could to protect themselves legally and were completely let down. The police, the council, the courts did nothing to prevent a man being killed and multiple others wounded by a person who was a known threat.

Is it time that we simply give up on laws that seem to exist only to protect those in power? Laws that do little to protect you or I?

After being a victim of crime myself last year and completely let down by the police I've come very close to taking action myself.
 
It seems like the police and council do have questions to answer. He probably presented himself as a victim, complaining about the police but no street should have to put up with this behaviour from a neighbour.
 
Jesus ******* christ.

That's just beyond a psychopath.

It's certainly not the first story of its kind, and won't be the last. It went on for 12 years, I know it's not easy but frankly if me and my family ever had any death threats made by a neighbour, I'd up and move - even if it meant moving to a less desirable home etc.
 
I know someone who was arrested in October or November, had his electronic devices seized, and has still not heard if he'll be charged. 7 or 8 months!

I've not really had much experience of the criminal justice system, but that seems a ridiculously long time to wait.
 
cheesyboy said:
I know someone who was arrested in October or November, had his electronic devices seized, and has still not heard if he'll be charged. 7 or 8 months!

I've not really had much experience of the criminal justice system, but that seems a ridiculously long time to wait.
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I had a generator stolen. I managed through shear luck to find it for sale on Facebook.
I provided the police with screenshots and links of it. I provided them with the serial numbers of the generator, the diesel engine and photos of it in my possession.
The police took 4 months to visit the seller by which time he'd obviously sold it.
They wouldn't charge him with theft as they couldn't prove he stole it even though he couldn't account for where he got it from.
They wouldn't charge him with handling stolen goods because he claimed he didn't know it was stolen.
They didn't find out where he sold it to as 'he forgot'.
They were absolutely useless. Incompetent doesn't even begin to cover it.
 
If you want an insider’s insight into the sorry state of our criminal justice system, I can highly recommend The Secret Barrister books.

It’s little surprise that things like the OP happen when the system is so stretched at every level.
 
TrojanWhore said:
One man killed in front of his wife and son, another man almost killed and you're focusing on shoplifters?!
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I know murder is more criminal than shoplifting. Though its the same people that shoplift and sell on to others for drugs. They continue to do this as they are not being punished by the police. We have seized what they were trying to steal a few times.
 
Dis86 said:
I had a generator stolen. I managed through shear luck to find it for sale on Facebook.
I provided the police with screenshots and links of it. I provided them with the serial numbers of the generator, the diesel engine and photos of it in my possession.
The police took 4 months to visit the seller by which time he'd obviously sold it.
They wouldn't charge him with theft as they couldn't prove he stole it even though he couldn't account for where he got it from.
They wouldn't charge him with handling stolen goods because he claimed he didn't know it was stolen.
They didn't find out where he sold it to as 'he forgot'.
They were absolutely useless. Incompetent doesn't even begin to cover it.
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Here's the southerner version of that story, I have a real pretty boy colleague who had a Brompton bike stolen. He ended up going around the guys house himself after tracking it down on Gumtree.

I guess the prospect of being murdered by a Brompton bike thief is less than a genie thief lol.
 
Geodude97AD said:
The police are peeing in the wind, the courts are not sending those they should to prison, as there is not enough room in the prison system, as there is not enough funding.

As for him, he should have been deported the day he arrived.
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Based purely on watching various police TV documentaries, this definitely seems to be the issue - obviously the cases they use are cherry-picked for the show, but the number of obvious scumbags who get arrested, stuck in custody overnight and then don't get charged/get let out with a slap on the wrist is shocking. The police are obviously doing the best they can, but if they're constantly having to arrest the same people for the same thing over and over and over and over (etc.) then it's little surprise they can't keep up.
 
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