POLICE and RapidSecure LTD

[Sirrel Squirrel]

You’ll lose and just feel more aggrieved afterwards. It’s just how it is. Let it go.

I'm no legal expert but how can they charge him when he didn't instruct them unless he's signed something since. He doesn't need to take them to court, they'd have to take him to get payment.

 

[The_Arbiter]

I guess you could wait until you get a court date by ignoring them, and by how things are going at the moment, a very long time away. Then if that does happen, pay the invoice. I'd expect they'd write this off and simply not bother, but if they do indeed have something in writing that says they can do whatever they want as it's supposedly reasonable and backed by the police, i'd think you could well lose at court.

But i know nothing about the law or shops, so this is obviously not sound advice.

 

[Gregvivi0401]

I guess you could wait until you get a court date by ignoring them, and by how things are going at the moment, a very long time away. Then if that does happen, pay the invoice. I'd expect they'd write this off and simply not bother, but if they do indeed have something in writing that says they can do whatever they want as it's supposedly reasonable and backed by the police, i'd think you could well lose at court.

But i know nothing about the law or shops, so this is obviously not sound advice.

I would like to know if enybody had this problem before and what was the final outcome.

 

[Surveyor]

I'm no legal expert but how can they charge him when he didn't instruct them unless he's signed something since. He doesn't need to take them to court, they'd have to take him to get payment.

I'm guessing the police would argue they have become his agent by necessity in an emergency and he's bound by acts of the agent, i.e. contracting with the company to make the property secure.

 

[Vulcan]

I would like to know if enybody had this problem before and what was the final outcome.

Other people on other forums have had this issue, albeit not a commercial property, the company threatened legal action which ultimately went nowhere.

 

[Gregvivi0401]

I'm guessing the police would argue they have become his agent by necessity in an emergency and he's bound by acts of the agent, i.e. contracting with the company to make the property secure.

So this looks to me money making machine, police had my contact information (hard to miss on front window) but thet prefer ring company for extra money.

 

[Surveyor]

So this looks to me money making machine, police had my contact information (hard to miss on front window) but thet prefer ring company for extra money.

You're free to argue the matter with the police, the company and if it ends up in court. I don't think the police are making extra money though.

 

[Gregvivi0401]

You're free to argue the matter with the police, the company and if it ends up in court. I don't think the police are making extra money though.

Maybe the police dont make money , but instead of helping people they give me extra bill. I would understand if there was no contact information for myself on shop window and they had to contact RapidSecure to do this job they i will pay the bill no question asked.

 

[touch]

So this looks to me money making machine, police had my contact information (hard to miss on front window) but thet prefer ring company for extra money.

The police don't have time to stand around watching your shop. RapidSecure respond in under 60 mins and have the required materials to secure it. Not many owners would be able to do that.

 

[Malevolence]

Rapid Secure - who is liable to pay them?

Hi, not sure if this is the correct forum or not but here we go. Last year I had some trouble with a tenants ex-partner kicking off and trying to force entry to

www.propertytribes.com

 

[Gregvivi0401]

The police don't have time to stand around watching your shop. RapidSecure respond in under 60 mins and have the required materials to secure it. Not many owners would be able to do that.

Wow so why on a client job sheet i have information police was present when they was doing job so they had lot of time to call me and inform what was happening and I live 5 minutes from the store, I would do it myself.

 

[booyaka]

Have you contacted them to query the bill? Or just having a rant on here instead?

Speak to the company themselves and ask them about the costs/time involved.

Look at it another way - Would you have the materials to secure the property at the time the attempted break-in happened - Did you have the time to do it yourself? Would you have been able to do it there and then on your own if the police had called you?

It's £240 - it saved your shop from being stolen from, it was secured in some form.(whether you say it was or wasn't suitable is irrelevant).

Like I say - speak to the company yourself - query the bill - but all the bravado about taking it all the way to court will potentially end up costing you a lot more than £240.

 

[Malevolence]

If this ever gets to a court I wonder if you could claim that this company did not fulfil their end of the contract, because a bit of cheap chipboard held in place by a few screws is not secure.

 

[Dis86]

If this ever gets to a court I wonder if you could claim that this company did not fulfil their end of the contract, because a bit of cheap chipboard held in place by a few screws is not secure.

Almost certainly but the key point seems to be that the OP never actually agreed to a contract.

 

[wildman]

does your shop sell Gucci Belts ? If not then the security applied was more than sufficient TBH....................

 

[Malevolence]

Almost certainly but the key point seems to be that the OP never actually agreed to a contract.

Oh yeah, there is that. But it's the police, so there's going to be sub-clause hidden away within pages of small print that says the OP is somehow liable for the costs despite having no say in the matter or being given the option of refusing. You have to wonder though, if the police had turned up and caught the burglar(s) in the act would the OP still be getting a bill from this company, or would the criminals be getting it as they're the one(s) who caused the damage? I know what side of that question I'm leaning towards.

 

[Vulcan]

But it's the police, so there's going to be sub-clause hidden away within pages of small print that says the OP is somehow liable for the costs despite having no say in the matter or being given the option of refusing.

...Small print of what? It's not contract that the OP has signed and it's not the law. Just because the police have a piece of paper doesn't mean the OP is now liable for a £200+ fee to a private company.

 

[Malevolence]

Might be relevant to the OP given their location.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/sites/default/files/2021-04/emergency_securing_boarding_services.pdf

The Home owner/Landlord/Housing association/Council is responsible for payment, if emergency boarding is required following:

• Criminal damage where there has been no forced entry by the police (including burglaries)
  

Apparently the victim is responsible for payments.

 

[mattyg]

Might be relevant to the OP given their location.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/sites/default/files/2021-04/emergency_securing_boarding_services.pdf

Apparently the victim is responsible for payments.

Which you'd pass onto your insurance company. When you tell them you had a break in.... As per your policy agreement

 

[arknor]

The police don't have time to stand around watching your shop. RapidSecure respond in under 60 mins and have the required materials to secure it. Not many owners would be able to do that.

yet they have time to police twitter or WFH..... so they can work from outside his shop surely, all they need is a mobile phone

Which you'd pass onto your insurance company. When you tell them you had a break in.... As per your policy agreement

sounds like unsolicited goods to me or a protection racket