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Hey all, I'm applying for the Special Constables in Staffordshire and got a few questions for any present or past constables if you don't mind answering.

Firstly, does being an officer effect your social and domestic life? Do you find that others treat you differently now that you are a Police Officer and if so, how?

Also, what are the day to day duties involved. I imagine that no 2 days are the same but what tasks do you do routinely?
 
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Yes, it does affect your life. This is obviously hugely personal to whoever it is, but this is how it affects me:

A lot of my social circle are centred around the police these days, I spend downtime with people from all over the Constabulary. I have very little free time, as well as being a Special, I also run a Police Cadet unit, so combined I average around 20 hours per week on top of a day job doing either admin, cadets stuff or frontline duties with the latter being around 2/3 of my time.

As to whether I'm treated differently, I have always picked company where association with the Police isn't a big deal, but obviously depending on what friends you keep, some may take exception to it. It's not unusual for some people to make choices over your new job.

As for duties, I'm based on a response shift, I only work with one response shift and have done for the last 5 years, so we all know each other really well. Therefore, my duties are usually dealing with Assaults, Domestics, Thefts, Criminal Damage, MISPERs and Mental Health jobs - that's my bread and butter. I also get involved with Public Order policing at football matches and various other events such as festivals. I would estimate that on a response shift we'll go to around 3 proper jobs a night and each job is about an hour on scene and about 2-3 hours for the write up, so there's plenty of paperwork involved.
 
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Yes, it does affect your life. This is obviously hugely personal to whoever it is, but this is how it affects me:

A lot of my social circle are centred around the police these days, I spend downtime with people from all over the Constabulary. I have very little free time, as well as being a Special, I also run a Police Cadet unit, so combined I average around 20 hours per week on top of a day job doing either admin, cadets stuff or frontline duties with the latter being around 2/3 of my time.

As to whether I'm treated differently, I have always picked company where association with the Police isn't a big deal, but obviously depending on what friends you keep, some may take exception to it. It's not unusual for some people to make choices over your new job.

As for duties, I'm based on a response shift, I only work with one response shift and have done for the last 5 years, so we all know each other really well. Therefore, my duties are usually dealing with Assaults, Domestics, Thefts, Criminal Damage, MISPERs and Mental Health jobs - that's my bread and butter. I also get involved with Public Order policing at football matches and various other events such as festivals. I would estimate that on a response shift we'll go to around 3 proper jobs a night and each job is about an hour on scene and about 2-3 hours for the write up, so there's plenty of paperwork involved.


That's great. Thanks for taking the time to provide the information. I'm hoping that I do become a special in this next recruitment drive.
 
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Jesus, what a waste of time, surely with bodycams being more available now, a bodycam video + a brief write up would be all thats needed?

They're looking at using BWV (Body Worn Video) during interviews, but at the moment we're not allowed to use it in that manner under PACE.

Things required in the write up:
  1. Write summary of incident, times etc
  2. Classify any crimes correctly under the Home Office Counting Rules
  3. Link people and addresses if they're already in the system, if not, add them
  4. Take statement from victim if one exists, this will be both an evidential statement and a Victim Personal Statement (VPS as entitled by the Victim Code) < This in itself can take between 30 mins to a couple of hours.
  5. Agree a victim contact agreement and add that crime report
  6. Send details of crime number and signpost to Victim Care Packs if not already done on scene
  7. Write or add statements taken from witnesses
  8. Summarise any BWV and burn off on DVD for use later on
  9. Fill out any risk assessments that might be required, they are mandatory for domestics, hate crimes, stalkings etc
  10. Task safeguarding teams to review the said risk assessments
  11. Write up any notes in the PNB, scan and add to crime report
  12. Write any arrest statements or general account of incident that may be required
  13. Look to seize any relevant CCTV, this may be tasking other officers depending on time of day
  14. Look at any forensic line of enquiries
  15. Bag, seal and book in any seized property
  16. Write arrest strategy for any outstanding suspects
  17. Write any intelligence reports that may be relevant
  18. Get reviewed by Sgt
That's just off the top of my head, I could think of more. There are jobs such as rapes where you know even if it comes in at the start of your 10 hour shift, you won't be doing anything else that day.

Edit: Also here is the thread I made when I was in the OP's position, around 8 years ago: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/the-police-application-thread.18003378/
 
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I joined as a PC in August 2016 and I've been out of training school since January this year. To answer your questions:

Does it affect my social and domestic life, YES! More than I realised it would. A variable shift pattern with 3 working weekends out of 5 does take its toll. I have a young son now as well and it's been hard on my wife dealing with my shift pattern. As we have a child my going out social life isn't what it was already but it is a shame when I can't make a social event due to working nights/weekends etc. It's also having an effect on my health I think, I had zero sick days for 5+ years before joining the Police and since I joined I've had two throat infections and countless colds, in fact I'm reluctantly off sick today (although I am missing Friday late shift/foot patrol around the bars and night clubs).

I don't feel that I am treated differently. I feel proud of what I do and if anyone has a problem with it they can sod off.

As Burnsy has said, I'm also part of what my force call the Local Policing Team, which is effectively responding to 999 calls, attending diary appointments for non-emergency calls, but we also have our own workload in the form of crime reports/investigations too (which Specials in our force don't have to worry about). So basically I go to work and try to get on with the countless 'to dos' in my own crime pot (which might be taking statements, reviewing CCTV, making arrests/interviewing, etc) but end up getting turned out to 999 calls. It's a constant battle trying to get your own work done whilst being a slave to the radio.

As you said no 2 days are the same. We deal with a lot of domestics, missing people, people with mental health issues.

Whilst I can't comment on what it's like to be a Special just let me know if you have any more questions. I'm new in service but I can hopefully add something from the perspective of being someone new to the Police service.
 
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I can't add much other than to say that you guys are very much appreciated by myself and my family. Your silly hours, silly pay and the stuff you have to deal with on a daily basis isn't going unnoticed. Thank you for your service :)
 
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I joined in January 2012 as a special, did almost 3 years, then joined as a PC in October 2014. I'm a "neighbourhood patrol officer", which is posh speak for response cop/cannon fodder/lowest of the low/jack of all trades/beat bobby/anything else you can think of.

In that time I've done stuff and seen stuff other people can't comprehend. It's an emotionally draining job. People outside the job might think they know what it's like, but they don't. I've seen more dead people than I care to remember, including those who were decomposing, and, sadly, more than one dead infant. I've listened to some horrific accounts from victims of rape and domestic abuse, and I've also sat and looked into the eyes and chatted with a man who'd murdered someone in the most horrific way. I've talked someone down off a ledge and listened to so many people who want to end their lives.

It's also been a bit hairy at times. I've been kicked, punched, headbutted, spat at, and someone even tried to set me on fire once. I've been called every name you can imagine, often from the person I'm trying to help. I'm expected to run towards the very thing everyone else is running away from, I'm usually working on my own, and sometimes my nearest backup is 20mins away.

It's physically hard at times too. It's not uncommon to work 15-16 hour shifts, and I rarely get a refs break. In the weeks after the Manchester Arena bombing, we were working 12 hour shifts, with our rest days cancelled. The night the bomb went off I got called up at 4am, expected to be in at 7, even though I'd not slept all night. I ended up doing 16 hours stood on cordon points in the sun, and i'd been awake 30 hours by the time I got home. And then the next day i was in at 6 again.

That was without doubt the most emotional and rewarding day of my career.

We do a 12 week shift pattern, which is ridiculously over-complicated (and is being changed in the next year to something simpler). All our shifts are 10 hours minimum, split up into earlies, starting at 7am, lates starting at various times dependent on the day or point in the pattern, and nights that go 9pm until 7am. It's hard to keep up with what shift you're on, and its physically difficult on your body. I'm writing this at 05:30am on a rest day, because I'm in between two sets of night shifts, and my sleep is an utter mess at this point!

Day to day my main role is to respond to calls from the public. That can range from a immediate grade 999 call with blue lights and sirens, to an appointment for someone to visit the police station. I'd say the majority of stuff we attend is not crime. A lot of our time is spent dealing with domestics, vulnerable people, mental health etc. This is hard work, because it can be frustrating as hell going back to the same addresses dealing with the same people that are falling through the cracks with other services, but it's the part of the job most likely to get you in trouble if you get it wrong.

On top of this, I'm also responsible for investigating crimes. This involves a lot of work, and is largely pretty dull. Some people enjoy this stuff, and they'll be the types who might look towards CID, but it's not for me. It's hours of sat in front of a computer, typing reports, filling out forms, waiting for stuff to come back from other people. I'll then arrest and interview any suspects. I don't particularly mind interviewing, but I find the process can be frustratingly time consuming. After they've been charged, the CPS will inevitably bombard me with requests for all kinds of different stuff, more forms, more enquiries, more work.

I also do a lot of public order stuff, mainly football but in summer I'll work protests and stuff. This is usually done on my rest days for overtime or time back.

It will have a massive effect on your domestic and social life. Working long hours and odd shifts makes it hard to have a social life. I've missed so many family occasions, birthdays, nights out that kind of thing. It also puts pressure on your domestic life. Your start time for a shift is fixed, your end time is flexible. Basically, you finish when you finish. If something happens, the job can and will retain you on duty. And if you get caught up with something at the end of your shift, you can't expect to just drop it and go home. On top of that you'll do things and see things you either won't be able to talk about, or won't want to. It's very hard for people outside the job to truly understand what it's like.

A lot of cops end up in relationships with cops, and it's easy to see why. It's just easier to be with someone who understands better, and you'll often spend more time with your colleagues than you do with your family members. Like Burnsey, most of my mates these days are in the job.

I think some people look at you differently if you're a cop, but my view is, if they do, they're not the kind of person I want to be friends with. I know some people who keep the fact they're a cop secret. I don't openly advertise it, but I am proud of what I do, so I won't hide it either. Everyone who knows me, knows I'm in the job, and most of my neighbours have worked it out by now. If they don't like it they can jog on. I do take some precautions though, as there are a lot of people out there who don't like the police.


I hope the above hasn't sounded negative. There is a hell of a lot of negativity in the job at the moment. It is hard to be a cop right now. But I still can't think of any job I'd rather do. I honestly think it's the best job in the world, and for the most part I still look forward to starting work everyday. It's not for everyone, I know people who've joined and hated it, but like you say, no two days are the same. It's more exciting and interesting than your average day job, and it can be massively rewarding. If you get on a good shift, there's a great team spirit too. I spend most of my life with a small number of people, and we all trust each other to keep us safe. We don't always get on, we fight and argue sometimes, and some people get right on my nerves, but I'm not being dramatic when I say if they need it, I'll come running, and I know they will too. There's not many other jobs you can say that about.

I'm trained to control riots, effect entry into addresses on warrants, pursue stolen cars, and all sorts of other stuff I've forgotten about. I get to do stuff the richest most powerful people in the world cannot do. It can be great fun sometimes. I also know that there are criminals currently serving long prison sentences with my help too. I've locked up burglars, car thieves, rapists, abusers, even murderers and other things I can't even talk about!! It's immensely rewarding to say that, and I'm proud to do what I do. Despite what some people might think, cops join the job to do good things.


There was a video made about the met a few years back which I thought was amazing, and summed up the job for me quite well:


Some advice:

Take every opportunity you get. The specials is an amazing opportunity to get to do, see and try things you won't always get. I did all sorts of duties as a special, working on specialist teams, I worked at the Olympics, did plain clothes operations, I even got taught to fire a pistol! It's much harder to do that in the regs.

A lot of people join the specials just so they can apply for the regs. Don't do that, make the most of the opportunity and learn what the job really is. Go on courses, build on your experience. You might find you hate the job, but if you don't, it'll look great when you apply and can talk about the things you've done.

If you go full time, don't stop pushing yourself. Go on any courses you can. Volunteer for duties, do the overtime shifts. Become that person they can go to when something needs doing, because they'll know who you are when the good stuff comes out that you want to do.

And never forget that it's a job. There will be days that you can't be bothered, where you'd rather stay in bed, when you want to get off early so you can go do something else. Same as any other job. If you sit on your backside, content in doing the same thing day in day out, you'll get bored. Push yourself.

Edit: Wow, didn't mean to go on so much :D Guess that was kind of therapeutic...
 
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We do a 12 week shift pattern, which is ridiculously over-complicated (and is being changed in the next year to something simpler). All our shifts are 10 hours minimum, split up into earlies, starting at 7am, lates starting at various times dependent on the day or point in the pattern, and nights that go 9pm until 7am. It's hard to keep up with what shift you're on, and its physically difficult on your body. I'm writing this at 05:30am on a rest day, because I'm in between two sets of night shifts, and my sleep is an utter mess at this point!

Hampshire have a 32 week response pattern. My argument is that if it doesn't happen twice in the same year, it's barely a pattern. We also have what are called "dropback" shifts where you'll start earlier or later than the rest of the shift to cover when there is a predicted higher demand. This means that the cohesion of a shift is often undermined. It's a great system on paper, it's crap for the people working it and that's been voiced to the bosses frequently.

A lot of cops end up in relationships with cops, and it's easy to see why. It's just easier to be with someone who understands better, and you'll often spend more time with your colleagues than you do with your family members. Like Burnsey, most of my mates these days are in the job.

The police is ridiculously incestous in officers dating other people in the job. The number of marriages that have been broken up by the shift patterns is pretty depressing.

Some advice:

Take every opportunity you get. The specials is an amazing opportunity to get to do, see and try things you won't always get. I did all sorts of duties as a special, working on specialist teams, I worked at the Olympics, did plain clothes operations, I even got taught to fire a pistol! It's much harder to do that in the regs.

Absolutely. Specials are getting more and more opportunities.

I'll take the lead of andi, use this to be a bit cathartic and I'll share something that I'm coming to terms with at the moment. Policing will affect your life in many subtle ways that you don't expect. Whilst you know that you'll have to deal with horrific stuff that will affect you, there are other things that also have a profound effect.

I'm usually a pretty confident person in my abilities. Part of my self identity is that I can do anything if I want it enough and put my mind to it. I had the rather new opportunity to go on a 3 1/2 week response driving course earlier this year. Unfortunately, I failed it. Twice. My confidence has been pretty shattered by this. The course is hard and exhausting and I put everything I had into it, but it simply wasn't enough. I'm still working out how this has affected my self identity and confidence outside of work. I recently passed up the opportunity for a promotion at my day job largely because I didn't think I was good enough for it. It's subsequently been given to someone less experienced that I am and I'm pretty gutted that I didn't have the confidence to apply for it. I know I would have done prior to the driving course. The Police won't be separated to just your off time. It'll affect you as a person and you need to be ready for that.
 
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Good luck!

I just received my start date for a July start a career as a regular PC. Just going through Vetting, fitness & medical now.

Both parents have been in the job so know what I am getting into bu @andi post is a great insight!

Very anxious as going from a cushy 9 - 5 job paying £40k+ per annum to a £19500 starting wage job which will be much more varied and rewarding, can't wait though!
 
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Good luck!

I just received my start date for a July start a career as a regular PC. Just going through Vetting, fitness & medical now.

Both parents have been in the job so know what I am getting into bu @andi post is a great insight!

Very anxious as going from a cushy 9 - 5 job paying £40k+ per annum to a £19500 starting wage job which will be much more varied and rewarding, can't wait though!

Thanks. I hope it's been useful. I think lots of things you hear from people in the job are overly negative. It's a job at the end of the day, they'll be good and bad days same as any other job.

You'll have a big shock from a 9-5 job! It's an eyeopener into a whole side of society most people don't know even exists.

In other news, subject to approval from the SLT, I have a new job next month. Hurrah!
 
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Moving off response and going onto our new District Tasking Team.

Focusing on arresting wanteds, recalls, bail breaches etc and doing operations and intelligence gathering. Something a bit more proactive hopefully. I start on Wednesday, and we're off doing force wide warrants on Thursday with me acting as MOE officer.

I still enjoy response, and hopefully I'll still get opportunities to do that side of things, but after three years of domestics and concerns for welfare, I fancy a new challenge.


For anyone interested, I managed to put details on our Facebook page of some of the jobs I went to on two of my nightshifts over the weekend. Gives a bit of an insight into an average night where I work:
https://www.facebook.com/GMPLeighAthertonHindley/posts/1582206875210227
https://www.facebook.com/GMPLeighAt...388942225365/1581220475308867/?type=3&theater
 
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Just wanted to waste a bit of bandwidth thanking you all for helping glue this mess we call society together... or at least stopping it falling apart even more quickly. The Police have been superb on the two occasions my mother, with dementia, has gone wandering. I hated 'wasting their time', but they soon put me right; the job's about so much more than criminal behaviour.

I still wish we hadn't had to add to their stack of paperwork though! I think that's the part of the job I'd worry about most, constantly wondering if I'd missed something which could cause problems later. I guess it's just something you learn to live with.
 
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Just wanted to waste a bit of bandwidth thanking you all for helping glue this mess we call society together... or at least stopping it falling apart even more quickly. The Police have been superb on the two occasions my mother, with dementia, has gone wandering. I hated 'wasting their time', but they soon put me right; the job's about so much more than criminal behaviour.

I still wish we hadn't had to add to their stack of paperwork though! I think that's the part of the job I'd worry about most, constantly wondering if I'd missed something which could cause problems later. I guess it's just something you learn to live with.

Don't feel that way! It's what the emergency services are for, and jobs like that I'll always shout up for. It genuinely helps someone in need.
 

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Good luck!

I just received my start date for a July start a career as a regular PC. Just going through Vetting, fitness & medical now.

Both parents have been in the job so know what I am getting into bu @andi post is a great insight!

Very anxious as going from a cushy 9 - 5 job paying £40k+ per annum to a £19500 starting wage job which will be much more varied and rewarding, can't wait though!
What has pushed you to go from a comfortable job to a more stressful underpaid job? If you don't mind me asking...
 
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