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Nah, you're the thinking man's David Niven mate.
Police Corruption
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Nah, you're the thinking man's David Niven mate.
What can he say? They are in a public place. One of them was ok the one who is looking at me, the other wasn't so happy. Tough titties. Harassing a poor bunch of grey haired bravehearts! That's the only reason I pulled over.
When departing I said to them that I hope they vote Yes next year, PC Smile grinned a little more then.
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Davidson Mains, Edinburgh North, about two hours ago.
It's not the first time Unionists have used security and police services to try and close down debate either.
Go to www.wingsoverscotland.com and search for 'closing down debate'.
Saor Alba!
It's not the first time Unionists have used security and police services to try and close down debate either.
Go to www.wingsoverscotland.com and search for 'closing down debate'.
Saor Alba!
yep they do the same to anything that goes against the grain down south too, look at the army of coppers that showed up to that fracking protest, which although obstructive was entirely peaceful, the police essential cleared the protesters so some private company could get rich destroying the environment, I look forward to earth quakes and poisoned water supplies, but its OK cos it makes the tories and their mates rich
What I couldn't get is why bother to get out of the car when you can clearly see they aren't blocking the road at all or doing anything remotely unlawful. That is where they do harass on behalf of another party for a vacuous complaint. If I went to a report of a riot in a park, and found a peaceful collection of normal recreation I wouldn't go and question them.
So that's why I got out, to harass them.
So that's why I got out, to harass them.
I don't know enough about the topic at hand, but a lot of the times people complain about adversaries using the Police to harass them its because they have done something that means the Police can harass you for it.
yep they do the same to anything that goes against the grain down south too, look at the army of coppers that showed up to that fracking protest, which although obstructive was entirely peaceful, the police essential cleared the protesters so some private company could get rich destroying the environment, I look forward to earth quakes and poisoned water supplies, but its OK cos it makes the tories and their mates rich
Are these real local resident protestors or renta-protestor as financed by Lush?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...sh-is-main-financial-backer-of-Frack-Off.html
I'm all for peaceful local opposition, however when it comes to people being bussed in and financed by a capitalist money making company, it sticks in the throat somewhat doesn't it?
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This.
Also MrMoon, and this isn't to be or sound condescending, police can't ignore a request or intel where there is the potential for disorder.
I welcome peaceful protest and engage and crack on with protesters and as long as their intentions are peaceful then I wish them well but it s so often the case where rent a mob bus in with the sole intention of causing friction and disorder that irk me and, more so, those who seek to protest peacefully.
This.
Also MrMoon, and this isn't to be or sound condescending, police can't ignore a request or intel where there is the potential for disorder.
I welcome peaceful protest and engage and crack on with protesters and as long as their intentions are peaceful then I wish them well but it s so often the case where rent a mob bus in with the sole intention of causing friction and disorder that irk me and, more so, those who seek to protest peacefully.
Yes, well, as you can see there was 'nothing to see here'. As always.
That's hardly bus fulls of people akin to the Koch brothers Tea party fake grass routes is it, £20k is pretty small potatoes when it comes to an organisation.
yes small potatoes, but quite clearly some of these 'protestors' have nothing to do with the area, have no local ties and are professional agitators. Not quite so clean, green and fluffy as people are making out are they? As I've said, peaceful legitimate protest is one thing and will be protected as a right by the Police. The locals are being used and 'professional agitators' will stir up trouble, which more than likely will mean that the Police are the bad guys again. Nothing is as it seems.
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Hmm I didn't say that companies can buy the Police.
The Police are stuck in the middle. They're not being paid by a rich company. They are duty bound to maintain order. What are they supposed to do? Sit by whilst someone trashes some equipment?
What I find distasteful is that someone maybe funding professional agitators who may inflame the situation so much that Offences are committed. Some of the local peaceful protesters may end up being caught in the middle and as a result arrested.
What evidence do you have for police bribery by Cuadrilla?
Source that they are professional agitators? That's quite an accusation there.
I can see how people from outside areas would want to stop fracking and oil drilling in the countryside for environmental reasons, not just NIMBY's
Lol that's rich coming from you
Agitator
noun
1 a person who urges others to protest or rebel:
Professional
noun
a person engaged in a specified activity, especially a sport, as a main paid occupation rather than as a pastime
"The company has such close links to Frack Off that four of Lush’s five-strong campaigns team have been given time off work to join the protest in Balcombe."
"One of them, Lush’s head of global campaigns Tamsin Omond, was arrested on Thursday for chaining herself to a fire engine used to block the entrance to the Cuadrilla site, where exploratory drilling began yesterday"
"Lush’s website has a whole page dedicated to Frack Off, describing it as a “grassroots campaign group”, though The Daily Telegraph has established that its leaders include serial protestors with criminal convictions for their part in other demonstrations"
"Hilary Jones, Lush’s ethics director, said Frack Off received £20,000 last year, and that other anti-fracking groups had been given donations of between £1,000 and £10,000"
"Tamsin Omond, a public school-educated baronet’s granddaughter, is banned from going within a mile of Balcombe as part of her bail conditions after she was released after her arrest on Thursday."
Seems to me that there are a few people being paid to demonstrate and clear evidence that money is being donated to further a cause.
"Another leading light in the group is Alistair Cannell, 23, of Brighton, who co-ordinated press coverage of Frack Off’s protest against Cuadrilla test drilling in Southport last year, which led to Mr Lloyd-Davies being convicted of trespass and assault."
"Mr Cannell was part of a 21-strong group which broke into an EDF Energy plant in Nottinghamshire in 2012 in protest at plans to build up to 40 new gas power stations, later pleading guilty to aggravated trespass. In September last year he was one of the first people arrested following a change in the law which made it easier to evict squatters. He was held in a flat above a shop in Brighton but the charges were later dropped"
Also looks like a few carry out this behaviour quite a bit - not exactly caught up in something and a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time is it....
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just me or does anyone think that police/cps/judicial corruption should be one of the most highly punished crimes because it undermines the whole system.
for example the vents that her corruptio nlead to (and thats onlyte ones we know) i'd have expected no less than 15 years
for example the vents that her corruptio nlead to (and thats onlyte ones we know) i'd have expected no less than 15 years