Police incompetence when dealing with sex gangs.

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https://news.sky.com/story/i-was-ra...claim-grooming-gang-at-large-in-hull-12469237

Just sickening, I'm lost for words with how the police failed to protect these girls, even with the evidence they have, wtf is wrong with our police forces and other departments of government that are ment to safeguard children.

So is it laziness, risk of offending the offender's, plain incompetence or is it that they just don't care.

It's so sad to think this could happen in this country and wtf is the governments strategy to deal with this crap.
 
Can't comment on this particularly but a few years back my sister was living in a house converted into a small number of flats and one of them was being used for stuff like this - my sister took in on herself to represent the other flats in taking it up with the police due to the nuisance it caused, criminal elements and concerns about underage girls being involved.

An undercover cop phoned my sister's number trying to book themselves a girl and it was only after some persistence on her part eventually a supervisor looked into it and found they'd spent weeks investigating my sister and her acquaintances rather than those she'd reported - obviously found nothing and closed the case.

I can't actually remember what the outcome was after that.
 
alchal said:
So is it laziness, risk of offending the offender's, plain incompetence or is it that they just don't care.

It's so sad to think this could happen in this country and wtf is the governments strategy to deal with this crap.
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Police, CPS and the courts are criminally underfunded thanks to years of Conservative rule.

They lost 20,000 experienced officers and thousands of Police staff that supported officers and let them get on with Policing. The government has realised they need to reverse this, but all the experience went with them, and now they are struggling to fill positions and the positions filled are going to take years before they are working (new cops need training before they can do anything of note)

It can’t be fear of offending, because 34 arrests were made. I doubt it’s laziness, because it looks like it’s been acted upon. The evidence presented just isn’t good enough for CPS to secure a conviction.
 
hurfdurf said:
The evidence presented just isn’t good enough for CPS to secure a conviction.
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That's what I took from the article.

The "texts" are photographs of texts so the police need to find someone stupid enough to be holding a device with those texts still on it when they arrest them. Otherwise what exactly can they do with a picture of texts?
The police arrested 34 suspects and say they did digital searches on 150 devices seized, and that phone records did not provide supporting evidence. They could find no provenance for the threatening text.
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The rest appears to be verbal or written statements which are not hard evidence of a crime or that X person definitely committed the crime.

What would people want the police to do that they would be totally ok with being applied to themselves on the basis of this evidence.
 
hurfdurf said:
Police, CPS and the courts are criminally underfunded thanks to years of Conservative rule.

They lost 20,000 experienced officers and thousands of Police staff that supported officers and let them get on with Policing. The government has realised they need to reverse this, but all the experience went with them, and now they are struggling to fill positions and the positions filled are going to take years before they are working (new cops need training before they can do anything of note)

It can’t be fear of offending, because 34 arrests were made. I doubt it’s laziness, because it looks like it’s been acted upon. The evidence presented just isn’t good enough for CPS to secure a conviction.
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This response would imply that the police were previously competent about dealing with these things, and yet that's not historically true. The sex gang scandals that rose to prominence over recent years following detailed inquiries, such as Rochdale or huddersfield, occurred under labour's time in government, and towards the end of them at that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang

Don't confuse the investigations and inquiries with when the incompetence was actually going on.

Are you happy with yourself for waving away any attempt to understand the actual problem to make a evidentially irrelevant partisan political point? Does that help people in these situations in any way at all?
 
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If they know who the core members are - why don't they simply do a Russian forces/gulag on them? Those outside that core definition then get the UK/civil approach.

That no-holds-barred approach would see a reduction of the core members and a shift to running core activities outside of the UK. The longer communications lines are more easily penetrated and allow easier detection and civilian action. It also makes it more costly for the gangs to target the UK.
 
Political corruption I guess. Plenty of peadophile rings over last few decades but turned blind eye, why?

They turn blind eye because the system is thoroughly corrupt, plenty of peadophiles in high places and they protect their own, it's a cult.
 
These things run a lot deeper than what's on the BBC surface, I feel most are ignored because of people are involved high up and they are corrupt to three core.

With the technological advances made in these past 10 years I cannot believe these types of cases are not solved.
 
Dolph said:
This response would imply that the police were previously competent about dealing with these things, and yet that's not historically true. The sex gang scandals that rose to prominence over recent years following detailed inquiries, such as Rochdale or huddersfield, occurred under labour's time in government, and towards the end of them at that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang

Don't confuse the investigations and inquiries with when the incompetence was actually going on.

Are you happy with yourself for waving away any attempt to understand the actual problem to make a evidentially irrelevant partisan political point? Does that help people in these situations in any way at all?
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The Rochdale and Huddersfield neglect by the police are completely separate and utterly different to the situation described in the Sky article, so I completely stand by my post thank you.

The police, social services and schools are so criminally underfunded so whilst historically, there was money in services for victims and the vulnerable, there were cases where criminal incompetence played a massive role in young girls being exploited and raped with nobody caring, for which heads should have rolled with criminal charges against the services involved, that very much is not the case here for the Police if the article is to be taken at face value.
 
Good job these aren't racist attacks

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hurfdurf said:
The Rochdale and Huddersfield neglect by the police are completely separate and utterly different to the situation described in the Sky article, so I completely stand by my post thank you.

The police, social services and schools are so criminally underfunded so whilst historically, there was money in services for victims and the vulnerable, there were cases where criminal incompetence played a massive role in young girls being exploited and raped with nobody caring, for which heads should have rolled with criminal charges against the services involved, that very much is not the case here for the Police if the article is to be taken at face value.
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What about the companies who employed these rapists who used their business premesis and taxis for example.

When will they be named, shamed and heads roll?

I want a full on witch hunt like we saw when there was name calling of a cricket player.

Except in this case underage girls were being raped.
 
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