Police officer shot dead in Croydon

[TurtleTwo]

Title thread is about a policeman being shot dead, I click the last page and it's now veered to a place I can't even be bothered to read about.

 

[NVP]

The truth is quite shocking isn't it.

No my friend, that is not the shocking part of your post - your ability to ignore and deflect is shocking. Why are you having this discussion if you're simply going to ignore points which are raised, change the subject to another topic based on a completely different inflammatory article which fits your ignorance and inability to rationalise data with context or even life experience.

Title thread is about a policeman being shot dead, I click the last page and it's now veered to a place I can't even be bothered to read about.

My apologies, I didn't realise I was actually trying to discuss a serious topic with an idiot projecting someone else's agenda.

But don't worry, mods are really good at keeping threads like this on topic, or so I was told

 

[Efour]

Title thread is about a policeman being shot dead, I click the last page and it's now veered to a place I can't even be bothered to read about.

Lol yeah pretty much.
Thought I was in the wrong thread.

 

[m@rty]

The truth is quite shocking isn't it.

So now explain to me, why would we want more people from backgrounds that have different values ones much less virtuous than our own again?

Oh wow, look another thread turned into the same racial nonsense by you again!

The sooner you are banned the better.

 

[The Running Man]

Oh wow, look another thread turned into the same racial nonsense by you again!

The sooner you are banned the better.

Oh dear someone woke up a bit touchy today!

I think the relevance came in due to the ethnic status of both the victim and the suspect.

 

[m@rty]

No, you just have a habit of turning every discussion into racial/xenophobic crap where you can make your thinly veiled remarks, which just eventually leads to the thread being closed. I’ve honestly lost count now of the amount of times this has occurred and you are usually the main culprit.

 

[Diddums]

Oh dear someone woke up a bit touchy today!

I think the relevance came in due to the ethnic status of both the victim and the suspect.

He's not wrong though, your blatant xenophobia is hilarious, it's almost like you've never experienced anything outside of your little bubble.

 

[NVP]

The races in the UK aren't mixing, they are eyeing each other up with hostility in mind, across ethnic city divides.

Oh yes sorry, I forgot about the ongoing race war... I'm frequently walking through exchanges between confronting tribes on my daily rounds

Your whole post above sounds like something from a sociology lesson given by some liberal with either no experience of the real world

Oh please do expand on this point? I'd love to know your perspective considering I'm a living example.

or with an agenda to change the class and racial structure of countries due probably to a chip on their shoulder

Does there have to be an agenda and not simply a will? And what chip am I shouldering to allow such enlightenment? Please do elaborate on your implications.


Your post reeks of defensive butt hurt, buddy.

A nice, apt new nickname

 

[NVP]

I think the relevance came in due to the ethnic status of both the victim and the suspect

Please tell me the relevance of teens being pulled over in Bradford, or Pakistani domestic violence? Or the relevance of idiots voting brexit to be rid of "the bad asians" because they've no clue what free movement between EU members actually relates to.


Again, I struggle to see how I was banned for a bit of reference humor but others are freely allowed to spew outdated ignorance disrupting pretty much every ******* thread

 

[The Running Man]

Please tell me the relevance of teens being pulled over in Bradford, or Pakistani domestic violence? Or the relevance of idiots voting brexit to be rid of "the bad asians" because they've no clue what free movement between EU members actually relates to.


Again, I struggle to see how I was banned for a bit of reference humor but others are freely allowed to spew outdated ignorance disrupting pretty much every ******* thread

I actually posted it in the wrong thread by mistake it was meant to be in the law and disorder one, I didn't realise I had this thread open.

 

[Tony Edwards]

These are the types of conversation pieces racists use to convert non racists into being racists. Its basicaly the same as what happens when young muslims are radicalised.

 

[The Running Man]

These are the types of conversation pieces racists use to convert non racists into being racists. Its basicaly the same as what happens when young muslims are radicalised.

The truth is some people aren't aware of certain facts because they are hidden by our woke media.

If seeing for example that 90% of households in an unnamed country are subject to domestic abuse allows them to understand cultural differences, then they were either not aware of the facts before for some unknown reason. But now because they are aware if it , does it make them racist?

The truth is Tony, you cant handle the truth.

 

[Chris Wilson]

These are the types of conversation pieces racists use to convert non racists into being racists. Its basicaly the same as what happens when young muslims are radicalised.

So even if "NVP" doesn't believe it, you for one agree there's something of a race war occurring here in the UK. I'm glad someone here understands and admits it!

 

[Tony Edwards]

The truth is some people aren't aware of certain facts because they are hidden by our woke media.

If seeing for example that 90% of households in an unnamed country are subject to domestic abuse allows them to understand cultural differences, then they were either not aware of the facts before for some unknown reason. But now because they are aware if it , does it make them racist?

The truth is Tony, you cant handle the truth.

Are you kidding? Are you denying the abundance of domestic abuse in this country?

You keep trying to put the UKs white population as some sort of god fearing upholder of law and common decency. Do you forget who we as a country really are?

https://www.theweek.co.uk/98330/when-did-marital-rape-become-a-crime

A large number of Britons do not regard non-consensual sex within marriage as rape, according to “alarming” new statistics.

A YouGov survey of 4,000 people commissioned by the End Violence Against Women Coalition has revealed that many British adults “remain confused about what constitutes rape”, the Evening Standard reports. The survey also highlights why access to justice is “beyond the reach of many victims”, the group added.

A third of respondents believed that non-consensual sex should not be considered rape if there was no sexual violence committed, while one in five women said that would not generally be considered rape if the victim had flirted on a date.

On the subject of marital rape, “more than a third of over-65s” do not consider forced marital sex rape, along with 16% of people aged 16 to 24. Overall, one in four Britons believed that non-consensual sex within marriage did not constitute rape.

“Marital rape is a serious and frequently occurring form of domestic violence,” says HuffPost, and “strikes at the heart of the marriage covenant, taking the promise, as in some Christian marriage ceremonies, to cherish the body of the spouse and turning it into a horror”.

Marital rape is illegal in the UK, but the legal history of the crime is a controversial one.

When did marital rape become illegal in the UK?
The earliest written legal source on marital rape in the UK appeared in a 1736 treatise entitled History of the Pleas of the Crown by Sir Matthew Hale, a former Chief Justice of the Court of King’s Bench in England.

Hale argued that “the husband of a woman cannot himself be guilty of an actual rape upon his wife, on account of the matrimonial consent which she has given, and which she cannot retract”.

This perspective proved “extraordinarily influential” in other countries, many of whom published similar legislation, according to Professor Jill Elaine Hasday.

In 1822, barrister John Frederick Archbold published the mammoth legal tome Pleading and Evidence in Criminal Cases, which remains the leading practitioners’ text for criminal lawyers in England and Wales. In it, he reiterated the position that a husband “cannot be guilty of a rape upon his wife”.

This remained the legal reality until a landmark court judgment in 1991. The previous year, a man identified only as “R”, was convicted of attempting to rape his wife, but challenged the decision citing the marital rape exemption laid out by Hale and Archbold.

Following multiple appeals, the case eventually reached the House of Lords, which ruled against it unanimously, stating: “Nowadays it cannot seriously be maintained that by marriage a wife submits herself irrevocably to sexual intercourse in all circumstances.”

The illegality of rape within marriage was laid out explicitly under the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

Where is marital rape legal?
Marital rape is outlawed in most countries around the world, but a review of laws in 82 countries by women’s rights organisation Equality Now between 2014 and 2015 found ten countries currently allow spousal rape.

It found that it is legal in Ghana, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Lesotho, Nigeria, Oman, Singapore, Sri Lanka and Tanzania. In four of these countries, “it is permitted even when the victim is a child”, Revelist reports.

However, these are the countries in which spousal rape is expressly allowed by law - many more countries have legislation that does not cover marital rape and considers sex within marriage consensual by definition, and thus they do not punish it as a criminal offence.

These include India, China, 13 African countries and all Middle Eastern countries apart from Qatar and Israel.

 

[NVP]

Lol "unnamed"

I actually posted it in the wrong thread by mistake it was meant to be in the law and disorder one, I didn't realise I had this thread open.

Oh yes how convenient ALL those seperate posts were actually meant for another thread, it was much more relevant there, hey? The one that's been locked since your ignorant postings? Well done bud.

 

[Tony Edwards]

I actually posted it in the wrong thread by mistake it was meant to be in the law and disorder one, I didn't realise I had this thread open.

In the thread that got locked because people like you keep posting stuff that cant help but sound like racist propaganda to normal people?

Lol "unnamed"


Oh yes how convenient ALL those seperate posts were actually meant for another thread, it was much more relevant there, hey? The one that's been locked since your ignorant postings? Well done bud.

Yes they should start a thread called 'Im not racist (I really am though) but'.

 

[NVP]

They should be perma'd in my opinion, but maybe I react too personally still.

 

[NVP]

The multiple strokes are administered under medical supervision by fit, robust men, and have to be given using all the strength they can muster on bare buttocks of the naked criminal in a partitioned off prison yard.

Just going to leave this quote here out of context

 

[The Running Man]

Where is marital rape legal?
Marital rape is outlawed in most countries around the world, but a review of laws in 82 countries by women’s rights organisation Equality Now between 2014 and 2015 found ten countries currently allow spousal rape.

It found that it is legal in Ghana, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Lesotho, Nigeria, Oman, Singapore, Sri Lanka and Tanzania. In four of these countries, “it is permitted even when the victim is a child”, Revelist reports.

However, these are the countries in which spousal rape is expressly allowed by law - many more countries have legislation that does not cover marital rape and considers sex within marriage consensual by definition, and thus they do not punish it as a criminal offence.

These include India, China, 13 African countries and all Middle Eastern countries apart from Qatar and Israel.

Yikes thats particularly high for a lot of places we happen to have high levels of immigration from.

Not ideal is it?

Marital rape is illegal in the uk though so. What are you trying to point out here exactly?

 

[NVP]

I think Tony is right, you need to start another thread if this is really a topic you wish to discuss.