Police set to step up hacking of home PCs

an act which results, or is likely to result, in serious injury to a person’s anus

Homosexuality is now illegal? :eek:

I think we will all have to switch to wired notebooks / netbooks and never let them out of our sight.
 
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So how about a boxer who dies in the ring?

Surely his opponent should be charged with murder?

And any boxer/wrestler should immediately be banged up for assault right?
Sport occupies a rather odd lacuna ( I think Smart v HMA is the latest case to look at it (but is scottish)), which is not, IMHO, very well explained.
 
If someone is assaulted then they can't consent by definition.

In R v Slingsby, R v Wilson and other cases it was considered otherwise. Let me rephrase it though, people with mental disabilities can't consent in the real world to something, whereas normal people can consent to bdsm in the real world. Regardless of what the law says.

Most laws in relation to IP infringement are victimless. Most drug laws are victimless. Most speeding laws are victimless.

If you illegally download something your causing lost profit, so someone is getting less money somewhere, they are the victim. Drugs should be legal, (the fact that they are illegal causes the killing, theft and prostitution in the first place). Speeding causes a great risk of killing innocent bystanders.
 
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How is it vague?



It clearly states these acts, or simulation of these acts.

It states other things besides. If you believe what you're saying, I suggest you look at the whole thing and consider the implications of no-one knowing whether or not any particular image or video is legal or not.
 
The difference here is if you have nothing to hide they won't hack your PC in the first place.

Well if you have nothing to hide they won't log onto your camera either... you won't mind having a police controlled camera in the corner of every room will you? you have nothing to hide afterall.
 
Great, another one to add to the EULA on the OS.

by using this operating system, you agree to have snooping key logging software installed in case you look at midget porn
 
No, however large the audience is, unless it's in the course of sport, you'll go to prison.

What makes "sport" any different then?

It's far more violent and often leads to deaths/severe brain damage. yet it;s fine because....?:confused:
 
Could you point out where I've been slanderous please.


Could you point out where I attacked you? Is it not a perfectly valid question to ask when discussing the topic. You are keen to protect your right to watch someone being beaten up whilst having sex. Is it not natural to ask the simple question of 'why'?


I presume you understand how common law systems work, in which case I have to ask vague in comparison to what? Statute is by definition broad and non specific, otherwise it is unworkable. It is case law that sets limits - look at the whole of tort for example.

That was your intention, right? You're not really sinking that low, are you?
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I see you were sinking that low. If I were to do the same thing, I would pretend to interpret your objection to divorce being legal as you being keen to be able to continue beating your wife. Which, of course, wouldn't be slanderous or ad hominem, would it? After all, why else would anyone object to divorce?

Maybe for as many reasons as people who object to this law have.
 
In R v Slingsby
you mean the case of 'vigorous sex', which thus has nothing to do with what we're talking about as it wasn't assault..

, R v Wilson
I'm sure you know that this is a hugely contested case and the running theme is that they got it wrong. In fact, back in my student days, I won a mooting competition arguing just that :D

Let me rephrase it though, people with mental disabilities can't consent in the real world to something, whereas normal people can consent to bdsm in the real world. Regardless of what the law says.
Yes, but that leads down some bizarre decisions. Can animals consent 'in the real world' - well I guess they could just walk off so yes using that test a dog could consent. Can a child consent - well yes they can say yes or no so yes they can consent. It is only when you get to moral grounds that consent is removed from the dog and the child.


If you illegally download something your causing lost profit, so someone is getting less money somewhere, they are the victim.
Actually current academic opinion shows the opposite - that downloading actually stimulates markets.

Speeding causes a great risk of killing innocent bystanders.
A greater risk perhaps, but until it actually occurs there is no victim. It is thus a victimless crime unless an accident occurs - which scuppers the whole 'harm' Dicey'esque idea.
 
Should rape videos be legal?

Well they aren't really rape are they they're just a woman pretending to be raped...


Out of curiosity would you charge someone with wrongful/false imprisonment for using a pair of fluffy handcuffs in the bedroom?
 
What makes "sport" any different then?

It's far more violent and often leads to deaths/severe brain damage. yet it;s fine because....?:confused:
I did that it's a lacuna that's very badly explained. Honestly I think the only reason the lacuna exists is because they couldn't exactly turn around and come to a judgement that banned boxing - they thus IMVHO fudged it.
 
I did that it's a lacuna that's very badly explained. Honestly I think the only reason the lacuna exists is because they couldn't exactly turn around and come to a judgement that banned boxing - they thus IMVHO fudged it.

So are you for the banning of boxing?
 
Out of curiosity would you charge someone with wrongful/false imprisonment for using a pair of fluffy handcuffs in the bedroom?

That's different because if you want to be 'imprisoned' then by definition you aren't imprisoned wheras if you want to be injured you are still injured!
 
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