Poll: Poll: Do you believe in an afterlife?

Do you believe in an aferlife?

  • Yes

    Votes: 102 17.5%

  • No

    Votes: 380 65.2%

  • undecided

    Votes: 101 17.3%
  • Total voters
    583
  • Poll closed .
Freefaller said:
Please don't use personal attacks or call people idiots. It's just not on - just because you're behind a keyboard and too gutless or haven't got the perpiscacity to make a decent argument and resorting to name calling makes you really look rather daft.
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I think you'll find I made an argument then topped it off with an insult, standard procedure for the Internet. I gather it's the same to assume that no one would consider you a man of honour in the real life.

The offending word has been removed from my post so you can dismount that horse of yours.

EDIT: this is not an insult, just thinking out loud.
 
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Since I'm in the no camp which rules out my ability to throw the 'I told you so' card later, I'm just going to preemptively do it. I told you so.
 
neodude said:
I didn't claim anything???

You said spirits don't exist, that's a claim. Where's the proof?
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See above.

I gather your were just playing devils advocate though so really my point bounces back to the fella who made the point about spirits.
 
The afterlife will feel just like I felt before I was born.

And that's all the evidence you, I or anyone else has to go on... so the only rational deduction is 'there is nothing'.
 
Mitzy said:
He is.
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The problem is that Panthro did not express a belief specifically, he only questioned the absolute claim of the negative made by both crinkleshoes and yourself and the subsequent claim regarding the innate intelligence of people who hold the counter viewpoint. Also no-one has stated that you or anyone must believe in human spirituality other than that they hold that opinion themselves....you made the claim that it doesn't exist definitively.

Therefore, the burden of prove lies upon you as you made a definite statement claiming two absolute facts as you see it, the fact that there is no Human Spirit (soul, or equivalent by another name) and that those who hold the contrary position are intellectually inferior to you.
 
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Mitzy said:
I don't have to, it's not my claim, it's his. Just because someone has an opinion based on belief it doesn't excempt them from being wrong.
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You are the only one who has made an absolute claim.

Other people have expressed opinions.

Person A can express an opinion that it will rain today based on looking out the window and seeing dark clouds.
Person B can express an opinion that it won't rain based on the weather forecast.

At this stage nobody needs to prove anything. As soon as either person declares that their position is 100% correct and the other is an idiot for holding their view the burden of proof falls on them.
 
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Hatter The Mad said:
The afterlife will feel just like I felt before I was born.

And that's all the evidence you, I or anyone else has to go on... so the only rational deduction is 'there is nothing'.
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Phoebe from friends says the reason some of us experienced nothingness before out births is because we're "brand new"

So to be fair, maybe the people out there in the world who hold experience and memories of other lifes are reborn.

In our next life, maybe we'll hold memories of this one.

Yep, That's right. Phoebe from friends is a fantastic source for debate. :p
 
Hatter The Mad said:
The afterlife will feel just like I felt before I was born.

And that's all the evidence you, I or anyone else has to go on... so the only rational deduction is 'there is nothing'.
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I think from that perspective it would be more rational to deduce that "there is nothing that my current corporeal existence is aware of" rather than the more definitive "There is nothing".
 
Castiel said:
People can have faith for very specific reasons....again, due to their personal experience, perception of the world around them, whether they accept relevant philosophical and theological ideas and arguments based on their cognitive bias and environment ans so on.......They question their faith almost continuously, they alter their opinon and perception of their faith as they increase their knowlege and experience.....this is how we have denominational religion, a myriad of competing and complimentary philosophies, a myriad of differing beliefs and positions, each come to fruition by someone questioning their beliefs and faith in what they hold to be the truth. The basic reason why we have these discussions in the first place.

That is not blind faith...that is just Faith.

Blind faith is the simple acceptance of a position without investigating, testing and applying or dismissing the relative beliefs according to your own thoughts and ideas and self discovery.

"Faith... must be enforced by reason... when faith becomes blind it dies." Gandhi.
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Thank you for this :)
 
MooMoo444 said:
Of the 21 people (so far) who believe in an afterlife, who actually goes to church on a weekly basis (or other religion equivalents)?
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Off topic slightly, but I've never really seen the point in going to church every week. Why does it matter where you pray? what benefit does a church offer than say, your bed doesn't?
 
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