Poll: Poll: Organ donation opt out

Organ Donation Opt Out, what say ye?

  • Total voters
    445
Spook187 said:
Nope i won't donate, i think it should be an in system.
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Do you think that because it is currently the norm or is it because you just don't want to donate and its easier for you?

Just trying to understand the reasoning behind it.

Some people in this thread have spoken about 'the country owning your body by default' or 'people being harvested', i dont see that sort of reasoning as anything more than paranoid ramblings, as donors who have opted in are not 'government owned' and having people opt in doesnt add a level of protection from being 'harvested'.
 
I'd be all for a "opt-in" if you'd be willing to accept an organ should you need one - but at the same time you'd be automatically added to the "willing to donate" list.
Pretty sure all these people who want to opt-out and will never donate would be more than happy to receive an organ should they require one.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Do you think that because it is currently the norm or is it because you just don't want to donate and its easier for you?

Just trying to understand the reasoning behind it.

Some people in this thread have spoken about 'the country owning your body by default' or 'people being harvested', i dont see that sort of reasoning as anything more than paranoid ramblings, as donors who have opted in are not 'government owned' and having people opt in doesnt add a level of protection from being 'harvested'.
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Since i was old enough to understand all the organ donation stuff taken out of you when you die i thought no way it's my body i want it all even when i get creamated it's mine, selfish maybe to some but it's still mine, i may change my view on it one day i dunno.

What about selling the organs you have like when you release some of the equity of a property, could do the same for organs when alive get some coinage, sounds bonkers i know lol.
 
Spook187 said:
Since i was old enough to understand all the organ donation stuff taken out of you when you die i thought no way it's my body i want it all even when i get creamated it's mine, selfish maybe to some but it's still mine, i may change my view on it one day i dunno.

What about selling the organs you have like when you release some of the equity of a property, could do the same for organs when alive get some coinage, sounds bonkers i know lol.
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I think treating organs as a commodity would be a dangerous road to go down.
 
Spook187 said:
Since i was old enough to understand all the organ donation stuff taken out of you when you die i thought no way it's my body i want it all even when i get creamated it's mine, selfish maybe to some but it's still mine, i may change my view on it one day i dunno.

What about selling the organs you have like when you release some of the equity of a property, could do the same for organs when alive get some coinage, sounds bonkers i know lol.
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problem is you don't know how you're going to die or if the organs will be any good - you'd be selling something you don't know for sure you can deliver and with a bit of a faff for the customer to get their money back if you don't
 
Kronos said:
I have been a registered donor for donkeys years at first with a card and now online but what worth they will be to anyone as I am in my 60's now is doubtful.
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I've recently dealt with an Inquest where a 67 year old gave up 5 parts of his body all to different hospitals so there's hope.
The saddest one recently was a 21 year old BMX biker and 8 of his parts went around the country.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
I've recently dealt with an Inquest where a 67 year old gave up 5 parts of his body all to different hospitals so there's hope.
The saddest one recently was a 21 year old BMX biker and 8 of his parts went around the country.
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Could you perhaps shed some light on this, he never actually followed it up with any facts (or a response) leading me to believe it was all blustering and you evidently have some actual experience.

Vonhelmet said:
Do people really know so little about transplants as to think they'll just randomly give new lungs to some 80 a day smoker?? :confused:
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Noxia said:
Could you perhaps shed some light on this, he never actually followed it up with any facts (or a response) leading me to believe it was all blustering and you evidently have some actual experience.
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Sorry, I’d not seen an alert for your quoting my post.

To be honest I’ve no experience in the field and I’m mostly going from watching medical dramas with people losing their rights to transplants for failing to quit smoking or drinking or whatever...

I’ll look up some guidelines, it shouldn’t be too hard to find.

American, but refers to lung recipients having to quit smoking:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...nary/lung_transplantation_procedure_92,P07752

Uk article about patients being refused liver transplants because they couldn’t convince their doctors they could stay off the drink:

https://www.britishlivertrust.org.uk/patients-unable-give-alcohol-refused-liver-transplants/
 
Vonhelmet said:
Sorry, I’d not seen an alert for your quoting my post.

To be honest I’ve no experience in the field and I’m mostly going from watching medical dramas with people losing their rights to transplants for failing to quit smoking or drinking or whatever...

I’ll look up some guidelines, it shouldn’t be too hard to find.


American, but refers to lung recipients having to quit smoking:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...nary/lung_transplantation_procedure_92,P07752
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Ah ok thank you, hope you can see why I thought it was odd not to respond! Thanks for taking the time. Sounds horrendous.. I wonder how one proves they've stopped though.

I'd hate to see the cost of such a procedure in the US.
 
Noxia said:
Could you perhaps shed some light on this, he never actually followed it up with any facts (or a response) leading me to believe it was all blustering and you evidently have some actual experience.
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I was replying to somebody else who thought none of his parts would be donated because of his age, I have no experience of who they will and will not give them to.
The Trust Policy guys work directly behind me so they might have an answer but I'm sure all our policies are online (I think).
 
SexyGreyFox said:
I've recently dealt with an Inquest where a 67 year old gave up 5 parts of his body all to different hospitals so there's hope.
The saddest one recently was a 21 year old BMX biker and 8 of his parts went around the country.
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If my bits can used great if not the medical science get my remains anyway as I have left my body to my local teaching hospital.
 
Kronos said:
If my bits can used great if not the medical science get my remains anyway as I have left my body to my local teaching hospital.
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I used to go to the Cadaver rooms at Keele when I was teaching and I decided to do the same.
Several years ago my family sat me down expressing wishes that they didn't want me to do it.
My eldest daughter had looked into it and apparently it can be three years before they get the body back.
All of them want disclosure and not that their Dad was lying on a slab for three years so I had to give in.
 
Vonhelmet said:
Sorry, I’d not seen an alert for your quoting my post.

To be honest I’ve no experience in the field and I’m mostly going from watching medical dramas with people losing their rights to transplants for failing to quit smoking or drinking or whatever...

I’ll look up some guidelines, it shouldn’t be too hard to find.

American, but refers to lung recipients having to quit smoking:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...nary/lung_transplantation_procedure_92,P07752

Uk article about patients being refused liver transplants because they couldn’t convince their doctors they could stay off the drink:

https://www.britishlivertrust.org.uk/patients-unable-give-alcohol-refused-liver-transplants/
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As harsh as it sounds i'm glad individuals are refused transplants in situations like those mentioned in the second link. The main reason i haven't signed up is because i wouldn't want some fool to ruin one of my organs by continuing the same behaviour that caused their own organ to go kaput in the first place. I wouldn't care if i was dead, it's still my organ as far as im concerned.

I remember when George Best was reported to have started drinking after his liver transplant. The idiot shouldn't have got a new liver as he was directly responsible for ruining his original one. That was the event which convinced me to not sign up and I didn't bother to look into it any further after that.

I have absolute sympathy for people who require transplants because of events outside of their control, if they were the only individuals that were eligible to recieve transplants then I would already be a donor. I haven't read much of this thread so if anyone has a link that details the criteria that must be met to recieve a transplant then i would like to read it. I might consider signing up if it seems reasonable.

As for the poll, I don't see this as something the state should be meddling in but i wouldn't be against increasing the amount of advertising for organ donation even if that position seems a bit condradictory.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
I used to go to the Cadaver rooms at Keele when I was teaching and I decided to do the same.
Several years ago my family sat me down expressing wishes that they didn't want me to do it.
My eldest daughter had looked into it and apparently it can be three years before they get the body back.
All of them want disclosure and not that their Dad was lying on a slab for three years so I had to give in.
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As far as I know they get to keep my body and will dispose of it when they have finished. As far as I am concerned it is nmy body so can do with it as I wish, the family do not come in to it.
 
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