Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

[Tunney]

Saddened but not surprised to see the Conservatives use the break in campaigning to take out the trash.

The Conservatives costed the breakfasts at 7p each and didn't factor in staffing costs.

 

[VincentHanna]

or perhaps don't want to back a leader who has openly supported terrorists and consistently voted against anti-terror legislation

More rubbish.

Better to vote for one who has overseen big cuts to the police force over 7 years...

 

[cheesyboy]

Is corbyn really advocating the best way to deal with terrorists is to change our behaviour to do what they want, rather than what we think is right?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427

What do you think the terrorists want?

 

[dowie]

Well if he is right, doing what we think is right for the last few decades hasnt got us anywhere has it?
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That is rather a selfish view - how about helping to stop mass slaughter in Kosovo, The Balkans, Sierra Leone or removing the Taliban from power in Afghanistan. Sure you can also point to the areas where it hasn't worked as well as would have been hoped such as Iraq but given the sectarian divide over there and the uprising in Syria it seems pretty unlikely likely that Sadam, a minority Sunny leader, (if he was still alive by now) wouldn't also be engaged in some sort of civil war just like his immediate neighbour.

 

[Uther]

or perhaps don't want to back a leader who has openly supported terrorists and consistently voted against anti-terror legislation

So vote for a leader that happily sells arms to the Saudis to spread their brand of wahhabism (or whatever its called) and who recently, whilst home sec, ripped into, and gutted the police. Tough choice.

 

[scorza]

What do you think the terrorists want?

Submission. Specifically for non-Muslims to submit to Muslims across the world.

So vote for a leader that happily sells arms to the Saudis to spread their brand of wahhabism (or whatever its called) and who recently, whilst home sec, ripped into, and gutted the police. Tough choice.

The arms we sell to Saudi aren't used by jihadis - haven't seen them use a Typhoon yet. Doubtless there are factions within the House of Saud that are promoting terrorism though.

 

[dowie]

More rubbish.

Better to vote for one who has overseen big cuts to the police force over 7 years...

Nope it isn't rubbish, Corbyn's terrorist support/sympathies is well documented. Granted I don't agree with police cuts but counter terrorism funding has been on the increase so it isn't quite as simple as that.

 

[cheesyboy]

Saddened but not surprised to see the Conservatives use the break in campaigning to take out the trash.

The Conservatives costed the breakfasts at 7p each and didn't factor in staffing costs.

Strong and stable

Good thing we can trust the Tories to look after the finances.

 

[danielanthony]

To say UK foreign policy is the cause of terrorism is to say that we should just pull up the drawbridge and not get involved in stopping any atrocities across the world.

But then, we get criticised for not getting involved in sorting out the Middle East (see Syria) so what's the solution?

I'd scrap HS2, international aid and Trident. That would give us a few billion to sort more pressing problems.

 

[cheesyboy]

Submission. Specifically for non-Muslims to submit to Muslims across the world.

So Corbyn's saying we'll all have to convert?

 

[dowie]

So Corbyn's saying we'll all have to convert?

Corbyn is saying stick our head in the sand and do nothing... and has a history of supporting terrorists. He considers groups that carry out suicide attacks like this to be his 'friends' remember.

 

[cheesyboy]

Corbyn is saying stick our head in the sand and do nothing... and has a history of supporting terrorists. He considers groups that carry out suicide attacks like this to be his 'friends' remember.

Would you say the same about Mo Mowlam?

 

[Greebo]

Corbyn is saying stick our head in the sand and do nothing... and has a history of supporting terrorists. He considers groups that carry out suicide attacks like this to be his 'friends' remember.

so he's frineds with ISIS then? Wow, I never new that. Thanks for sharing that info with the public. I am surprised he is not a watch list then?

 

[VincentHanna]

Obama said similar things to Corbyn.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...llowed-libya-to-become-a-s-show-a6923976.html

 

[dowie]

Would you say the same about Mo Mowlam?

no, quite obviously not - there is a big difference between establishing dialogue and talking to people vs supporting/sympathising

I've made that point already in this thread using her specifically as an example - people do seem to conflate Corbyn's actions with dialogue/trying to establish peace yet he only talked to one side and he was happy protesting at the trials of people who'd murdered UK civilians in terror attack son UK soil

If he was to protest at a trial of an ISIS terrorist today, help run a magazine that condoned ISIS attacks or fly overseas and share a stage with a wanted Islamist who had killed British troops then would that be acceptable?

so he's frineds with ISIS then? Wow, I never new that. Thanks for sharing that info with the public. I am surprised he is not a watch list then?

Do you honestly think ISIS have a monopoly on suicide bombings? You really are quite naive if so...

 

[Dolph]

so he's frineds with ISIS then? Wow, I never new that. Thanks for sharing that info with the public. I am surprised he is not a watch list then?

He does have history leaning towards supporting jihadis.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/603319/Fury-at-Jeremy-Corbyn-backing-for-extremist-Muslim-charity

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-have-been-captured-and-brought-to-trial.html

It seems his morality is anything is fine as long as it's anti west or anti UK.

 

[Rroff]

I'd scrap HS2, international aid and Trident. That would give us a few billion to sort more pressing problems.

Don't want to turn this into a Trident thread LOL but scrapping our nuclear deterrent is utterly utterly daft - half the reason why many of these global issues exist (and possibly a large part of the reason Trident even exists) is due to short sightedness when dealing with important issues.

International aid is certainly something that needs an overhaul - on paper it looks like 75% of it isn't well used and/or is essentially being emptied into the hands of corrupt people/organisations.

It seems his morality is anything is fine as long as it's anti west or anti UK.

IMO he really believes that just by being decent you bring out the decency in other people, that is "really there beneath the surface just waiting to come out" and can't see the fallacy in his thinking.

 

[doodah]

May's optics are all over the shop, all she had to do was not look incompetent or less incompetent than Corbyn. This made me a chuckle...

"Vote Conservative to ensure that your children get a strong and stable, and uncosted B̶r̶e̶x̶i̶t̶ breakfast."

In other news, Katie Hopkins has been sacked from LBC. Coupled with that hefty legal bill - I would imagine she's not having the best of times.

 

[Tunney]

It would appear from the most recent polls that these smears really aren't doing the job.

Maybe Conservatives will have to switch their strategy to talking about policies instead?

 

[dowie]

He does have history leaning towards supporting jihadis.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/603319/Fury-at-Jeremy-Corbyn-backing-for-extremist-Muslim-charity

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-have-been-captured-and-brought-to-trial.html

It seems his morality is anything is fine as long as it's anti west or anti UK.

indeed - Hamas and Hezbollah have carried out plenty of suicide attacks on civilians just like the Manchester bombing:

Would he dare talk about 'our friends in ISIS' today? Doubtful... he's also now expressed regret for the above, only after weeks of flack for it in the press, fact is his past re: terrorist groups isn't something he can be proud of.