Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

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  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

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SlyReaper said:
I just saw her Andrew Marr interview. The bit where she's talking about her hair style and how that apparently has something to do with her past support for the IRA. My God she is such a cretin. I really do despair.
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I don't think she's stupid. Quite the opposite, sadly. If she was stupid, she'd be much less dangerous. Her ignorance and obvious nonsense about the cost of 10,000 police, for example. I don't think she was ignorant and talking nonsense because she's stupid. I think she was ignorant and talking nonsense because she really didn't care about the policy, not even enough to pretend to care.

I think she really thinks that campaigning for terrorism and against Britain (which she did, explicitly, repeatedly and passionately) is as trivial a thing as a hairstyle. I also think that she hasn't changed her basic position at all, i.e. she's still a hate-filled bigot who loves irrational prejudice and discrimination. What's changed is that she's gained political power and skill and maintains enough of a veneer of reasonableness to keep it. Notice that her first response was to refer to that change - "I became an MP."

If Labour weren't lead by such horrible people I might have voted for them as a tactical move to try to lessen runaway Conservative power. But they are, so I didn't. I think Labour is even worse than Conservative at the moment and would be equally authoritarian if they gained equal power, if not more so. It's like choosing between gonorrhoea or chlamydia. Although I'd rather have either of those diseases than either of those parties in charge. May or Corbyn (being led by Abbott - does anyone think he could stand up to her even if he wanted to?). I'd rather have Abbott and Costello in charge than Abbott and Corbyn. And yes, I know that Abbott and Costello are dead.

So I voted (postal vote, so I've already voted) Lib Dem as a matter of conscience even though I'm sure Labour will win this seat again (no other party has ever been elected here in any local or general election). It was that or abstain because I couldn't bring myself to vote for the others.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...sed-labour-election-candidates-wreath-laying/
Jeremy Corbyn has been condemned by his own party after admitting he attended a wreath-laying ceremony at the grave of a Palestinian terrorist involved in the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre.

Less than a year before becoming Labour leader, Mr Corbyn visited the cemetery in Tunisia where members of the Palestine Liberation Organisation are buried, including Atef Bseiso, who was directly involved in the Munich attack, prompting outrage from Jewish groups.
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Jeremy Corbyn, the terrorist's friend. For those that don't know, the Munich massacre, was an attack on the Israeli Olypmics team at the 1972 Olympics in Munich. The group, Black September took 11 Israeli hostages who were eventually killed, one was castrated. They were demanding the release of Palestinian prisoners in Israel and the leaders of the German Marxist-terror group, the Red Army Faction.
 
Ah but he was just establishing dialogue or something - a wreath laying ceremony at the grave of a terrorist who deliberately massacred civilians is totally cool. I mean I'm sure he could do the same for the Manchester bomber and people would completely understand.
 
Gabbatek said:
Tory party is slowly falling apart. Some of the tory party with an actual conscience (believe it or not) are rebelling against the dementia tax as well.
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Of course they are... it could easily be a labour policy - it is essentially a wealth tax and frankly plenty of right wing politicians would be opposed to it. What was odd however is how many apparent left wing posters on her moaned about it.
 
matt_fsr said:
Theresa May in front of a live studio audience tonight:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/may-v-corbyn-live-battle-number-10-channel-4-sky/

I predict.... this will not go well for her! :D Vile woman has tried to weasel her way out of any potential confrontation with real people this whole campaign, I hope she gets utterly torn apart.
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"No, there will be no head to head between the two politicians. Mrs May has been quite clear that about not doing any televised head-to-head debates during the General Election campaign.

Each leader will be quizzed for 45 minutes, divided between questions from an invited audience and questions posed by Mr Paxman."

So will they be in separate rooms or something or just sat next to each other & not directly talking to each other?
Sounds like school yard shenanigans :p

Hope this ends up online so I can see it.
 
scorza said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...sed-labour-election-candidates-wreath-laying/

Jeremy Corbyn, the terrorist's friend. For those that don't know, the Munich massacre, was an attack on the Israeli Olypmics team at the 1972 Olympics in Munich. The group, Black September took 11 Israeli hostages who were eventually killed, one was castrated. They were demanding the release of Palestinian prisoners in Israel and the leaders of the German Marxist-terror group, the Red Army Faction.
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For what it's worth, not that this is going to change anyone's mind, that's a very inaccurately worded headline.

http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com...ce-at-ceremony-for-munich-massacre-terrorist/

It’s understood that the event referred to in the report was a commemoration of the bombing of the PLO headquarters, but that wreaths were also laid on other graves during the gathering. Corbyn hims of was not involved in wreath laying.
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I agree he has a disturbing past, but let's at least attempt to oppose people based on what they actually did, rather than what a rapidly declining newspaper wants to think happened.

Here's the article referred to by both pieces: https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-98de-PALESTINE-UNITED#.WStQ4GjyuUm
 
matt_fsr said:
Theresa May in front of a live studio audience tonight:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/may-v-corbyn-live-battle-number-10-channel-4-sky/

I predict.... this will not go well for her! :D Vile woman has tried to weasel her way out of any potential confrontation with real people this whole campaign, I hope she gets utterly torn apart.
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Thanks for the heads up, it'll be great watching the public dismantle her. Unless they're staged questions by prop audience but i doubt it. Channel four are quite impartial.
 
Gabbatek said:
It was sooooo good seeing him being tricked then every interview after he had to try and talk his way out.

Tory party is slowly falling apart. Some of the tory party with an actual conscience (believe it or not) are rebelling against the dementia tax as well.
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Yes, but at the moment there is no alternative. The Labour party has already fallen apart and some of it's leaders are frankly just incompetent (Diane Abbot).
 
Evangelion said:
I also agree that the Lib Dems did a good job with the hand they were dealt. Can't understand all the hate for them.
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ignorance of the position they were in, for some bizarre reason people thought they where the majority player in the coalition they weren't. I think most people have since realised how much they actually rained the Tories in.
 
It's interesting to see how the conservatives managed to get this quite so wrong. All they had to do was shut up and not say anything and they'd have romped it. Instead they got cocky thinking they could use it as an opportunity to push through some potentially unpopular ideas. In the mean time Labour thinking it didn't have a snowballs chance in hell just went for promising the moon on a stick to anyone who would listen on the basis they'd never have to deliver any of it and some people were bound to be daft enough to believe everything. "Hospital on every street corner, yes of course that's a key Labour policy, £500 per month beer allowance for students - absolutely, a basic human right, 20% pay rise across the board for all public sector workers - yep, we'll pay for it all by errr, taxing the vile rich and abolishing and selling off trident, banks, houses with more than 4 bedrooms, cars worth more than £40k and, umm, oh I dunno, Diane Abbots in charge of numbers, oh and wont someone please think of the nurses and children....".

It's worked enough we're going to end up with 5 years of ineffectual government just at the time we need to have a strong vision for the future with Brexit. Instead we're going to end up with a wishy washy worst of all elements settlement as conflicting parties threaten to block any aspect of the negotiations which doesn't suit their own parochial needs.

I was very much against Brexit but if we're doing it we need to do it properly from a position of strength, in fact i'd love to see this as the catalyst for the UK looking outwards and reengaging with the commonwealth as a strong trading and economic organisation rather than hoping we get some crumb from the european table as Juncker seeks to punish the UK to ensure no one else dares think of leaving the EU.

Either way I can't help but think a hung parliament or minority coalition is going to give us a self fulfilling prophesy of a crappy decade ahead as we shoot ourselves in the foot.
 
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Exactly - we need a large Tory majority this time - punish them in 2022 if they mess it up but any other result will be a disaster.
 
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