Poor Nokia

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I thought Nokia had already outlined its strategy with Meego for high end phone and a new verision of symbian for mid-low end phones with apps written in QT and available to both platforms.

Are the guys working on symbian now surplus to requirements?
 
therealnerd2 said:
This is exactly it - there are few partners Nokia could have found that might propel them back to the highest level. Kudos to them for not quietly fading into obscurity (yet...)
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Lol don't forget they are still by far the largest mobile phone manufacturer, selling more units than their next 4 competitors combined. They are no where near obscurity. People on these forums are hardware/technology enthusiasts, et the high end market is tiny compared to the mainstream.
 
But how are Nokia going to compete with the likes of say Samsung who make nearly all the hardware in their phones? Surely Nokia won't be able to compete on price...
Re: post about Samsung not launching Android phones...Google Nexus S, 3 new Galaxy phones released in next month or 2. They have also sold 10 million Galaxy S's.

But really, I've said this for years...I don't find any Nokia phones desireable any more. Try them, not what I want or need and miles behind other phones and platforms. Symbian sucks in my eyes (and most other people's too I know) but WP7 I'm not that keen on either. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, this will make or break them and WP7
 
englishpremier said:
Lol don't forget they are still by far the largest mobile phone manufacturer, selling more units than their next 4 competitors combined. They are no where near obscurity. People on these forums are hardware/technology enthusiasts, et the high end market is tiny compared to the mainstream.
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They are...and losing that fast. Problem is, Apple have small share but over 50% of the profits from phones...
 
englishpremier said:
Lol don't forget they are still by far the largest mobile phone manufacturer, selling more units than their next 4 competitors combined. They are no where near obscurity. People on these forums are hardware/technology enthusiasts, et the high end market is tiny compared to the mainstream.
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They are massive at the lower end, the least profitable end. They need a smartphone strategy that works because all those lower end buyers will be moving up eventually, and if Nokia doesn't have a more functional smartphone to offer them when they do they're going to lose out big time.
 
Well, I had Windows phone 7 down to be dead, this changes things somewhat.

I don't see me changing from android, but its going to be an interesting show
 
bam0 said:
Oh well, bye bye Nokia, you've just signed up to become just another WP7 OEM.
WP7 currently has pretty heavy minimum specs and tight restrictions. To break into lower priced markets they're going to have to drop these or they aren't going to sell.
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That's exactly what they've announced - Microsoft and Nokia will work together to get Windows Phone onto cheaper hardware.

And I very much doubt that Nokia will become just another WP7 OEM. At the very least, I bet that Nokia are getting a very healthy discount on the WP license fee.

And again we're back to the Nokia vs. Qualcomm spat. WP7 is another platform centred around Qualcomm silicon. That's going to make things interesting.
 
Tunney said:
That's exactly what they've announced - Microsoft and Nokia will work together to get Windows Phone onto cheaper hardware.

And I very much doubt that Nokia will become just another WP7 OEM. At the very least, I bet that Nokia are getting a very healthy discount on the WP license fee.
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I realise that's what they've said, it just goes against the announcement MS made when they released WP7, the CPU and screen requirements, internal memory etc. Pretty much all the current WP7 phones are identical inside and that was pushed as a positive thing to counter "Android fragmentation". I don't doubt for a minute that they could get WP7 running comfortably on devices with different screen resolutions and formats, or on devices with lower power CPUs, it just runs contrary to what they've said.

As for the OEM issue, given the closeness of this relationship how much of what Nokia/MS do will feed back into WP7 in general? If it's a lot Nokia are basically handing value to their rivals like Samsung/HTC. And if not MS risk alienating their current OEMs.
 
Tunney said:
That's exactly what they've announced - Microsoft and Nokia will work together to get Windows Phone onto cheaper hardware.

And I very much doubt that Nokia will become just another WP7 OEM. At the very least, I bet that Nokia are getting a very healthy discount on the WP license fee.

And again we're back to the Nokia vs. Qualcomm spat. WP7 is another platform centred around Qualcomm silicon. That's going to make things interesting.
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Qualcomm or ARM? I thought Qualcomm and the like (TI, nVidia) used ARM designed chips and the OS was built around that (like Android is)?
 
I expect the other manufactures to pull out/away from WP7 now that Nokia are in bed with MS on this. Not sure if its going to work for either of the parties, with iOS being huge and the PSS giving Andoid the gaming market they need I only see those two OS taking more market share.
 
Fegruson said:
Qualcomm or ARM? I thought Qualcomm and the like (TI, nVidia) used ARM designed chips and the OS was built around that (like Android is)?
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Qualcomm is a bit of a wierd one, they design chips that use ARM designs and then add in their own GSM/3G technology chips to design all-in-one processors (sometimes refered to as SoC - System On a Chip)

msmalls74 - I don't really see the issue because phone makers and networks, who buy 95% of handsets, like diversity - you can't put all your eggs in one basket (and more importantly - have them all priced the same). Samsung use Bada, Android and WF7 which are fairly manageable code bases. They only have to look after one themselves (bada), the other is basically a well known kernel so they can use fairly off the shelf designs (android, based on linux) and one comes in reference designs that are standalone (WF7)
 
Nokia has joined forces with Microsoft in an attempt to regain ground lost to the iPhone and Android-based devices.

The deal will see Nokia use the Windows phone operating system for its smartphones, the company said.

It means that Nokia's existing operating systems will be sidelined.
 
:mad::( Bugger. I was hoping Nokia would end up embracing android. I won't be replacing my E71 with another Nokia that's for certain.
 
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