Poorly Alfa

[Bri]

How Do

Thought I'd give you a laugh by showing you my 147 on a recovery truck;

Got it recovered to a local specialist, they have only had a chance to have a very quick look at it but the inlet manifold is blown apparently which could (hopefully not) be a result of timing belt failure. It shouldn't be as belts were changed less than 36k ago but you never know. I really hope it's not that as could be looking at 4 figures to repair which, tbh, probably isn't worth it.

Anyway, enjoy

 

[Ed]

Anyway, enjoy

It's not like OcUK to laugh at the misfortune of others.

 

[Sone]

an alfa in its natural habitat.

You say belts were changed 36k ago, i thought that was about the service interval on these

 

[M0T]

Poor Alfa

How long ago were the belts done (years not mileage) and did they change the idlers and tensioners (as AFAIK thats what causes belt failure on the twin spark engines)?

 

[Bri]

It's not like OcUK to laugh at the misfortune of others.

It was mostly tongue in cheek

 

[Ed]

It was mostly tongue in cheek

So was mine.

 

[merlin]

Alfa in flat bed shocker.

 

[Bri]

an alfa in its natural habitat.

You say belts were changed 36k ago, i thought that was about the service interval on these

Ho ho ho. I said less than 36k but you're right, that is the interval.

Poor Alfa

How long ago were the belts done (years not mileage) and did they change the idlers and tensioners (as AFAIK thats what causes belt failure on the twin spark engines)?

Less than 3 years. I assume tensioners were done as it was done at a stealers, but can;t be 100% sure as have only got the service book stamp, no receipts. Don't know for sure it is the belts yet, fingers crossed it isn't.

So was mine.

Damn this emotionless medium that we are forced to use

 

[GreenMint]

Aww, poor thing, still, it had a lot longer on the road in one go than most Alfas!

 

[BigglesPiP]

V6, TS, or Oil burner?

 

[M0T]

Its a 2l twin spark.

 

[Bri]

Oil burner?

*spit*

 

[BigglesPiP]

If valves have met pistons, then you're likely to be looking at a big end failure a year or 2 down the line as well.

If pistons have met valves, and it does start making that knocking sound after a couple of years, stop. It's a fancy nitrated crank, you you probably won't damage it, but if you do damage it it's expensive.

 

[M0T]

Bottom end failures on TS engines require a crank to be reground and larger bearings to be fitted, apparently the cranks in them are made of cheese.

 

[BigglesPiP]

You're better off not re-grinding a nitrated crank (which is an incredibly strong component, in fact the BTCC 155 used the unmodified crank from the road going 1.8TS). If money is an issue £300 for an exchange part is the way to go.

 

[Poppy]

Shudve just set fire to it, then claim vandalism on your insurance

 

[MarkDavis]

Yup, those twin sparky engines aren't the most reliable, especially with all the rigmorole associated with cambelt changes, cam timings and all the various parts needed. Fail to replace an idler or tensioner or something really little and anything could happen.

 

[Matt82]

blew the welds on the intake manifold? sound like too much naws

 

[Dogbreath]

Bottom end failures on TS engines require a crank to be reground and larger bearings to be fitted, apparently the cranks in them are made of cheese.

Just the same as any other engine where a bearing failure has scored the crank then?

the inlet manifold is blown apparently

Last time I heard of that happening the driver was using too much 'naws' and it caused part of the floor pan to drop out as well

 

[M0T]

Just the same as any other engine where a bearing failure has scored the crank then?

That was in response to the post from BigglesPiP where he said it was unlikely to damage the crank