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Possible 7700K Kabylake specs released....

Orcvader said:
It's been like that with Intel's tick tock cycle which started nearly 10 years ago, new architecture -> smaller process -> new architecture etc. But due to how hard it is now to shrink the process, it's become process -> architecture -> optimization, so instead of 2 generations being based on the same architecure, it's now 3.
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So what are the three?
Skylake
Broadwell-E (which is older?)
and?
 
rogueblade said:
So what are the three?
Skylake
Broadwell-E (which is older?)
and?
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E is a different platform, which lags a bit behind from the mainstream platform. Broadwell-E is the same as Broadwell (Process) but with more cores and no IGP. Broadwell is the same architecture as Haswell, only difference is 14nm vs 22nm. Skylake is an entirely new architecture (Architecture). Kabylake is optimization.
 
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"Process" is what was "tick", "architecture" is what was "tock", and "optimisation" used to be referred to as "semi-tock" or "refresh". Thus:

Architecture = Nehalem
Process = Westmere
Architecture = Sandy Bridge
Process = Ivy Bridge
Architecture = Haswell
Optimisation = Devil's Canyon (Haswell Refresh)
Process = Broadwell
Architecture = Skylake
Optimisation = Kaby Lake
Process = Cannonlake

Cannonlake is set for H2 2017, meaning we won't get an entirely new architecture until Ice Lake in 2018 at the earliest. AMD's Zen-based chips, starting with Summit Ridge, are due to be released this year. Basically Intel realised that moving to new processing nodes is going to get progressively more difficult and can't just rely on the old tick-tock model to get small, annual improvements to their CPUs.
 
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DragonQ said:
"Process" is what was "tick", "architecture" is what was "tock", and "optimisation" used to be referred to as "semi-tock" or "refresh". Thus:

Architecture = Nehalem
Process = Westmere
Architecture = Sandy Bridge
Process = Ivy Bridge
Architecture = Haswell
Optimisation = Devil's Canyon (Haswell Refresh)
Process = Broadwell
Architecture = Skylake
Optimisation = Kaby Lake
Process = Cannonlake

Cannonlake is set for H2 2017, meaning we won't get an entirely new architecture until Ice Lake in 2018 at the earliest. Zen-based chips, starting with Summit Ridge, are due to be released this year. Basically Intel realised that moving to new processing nodes is going to get progressively more difficult and can't just rely on the old tick-tock model to get small, annual improvements to their CPUs.
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Thanks for the detailed info. So if Cannonlake is set for H2 2017 and is at the bottom of your list, then why is 'Summit Ridge' absent from your list (if it's this years next release)?
I ask so I can research for CPU I may want to go for in my summer 2016 gaming rig.
 
Summit Ridge is an AMD CPU. The list is of Intel's CPUs; they are the ones who use the process/architecture/optimisation release strategy. AMD's release strategy is "release a pretty bad product, hide away for 5 years releasing nothing, then release something that hopefully is good". :D
 
If we placed Intel's terms to AMD...

Architecture = Phenom (K10)
Process = Phenom II (K10)
Architecture + Process = Bulldozer
Optimization = Piledriver
Optimization = Steamroller
Optimization = Excavator
Architecture + Process = Zen

... Yeah not as "ordered" as Intel :p.
 
McGraw said:
Not sure how compelling more lanes will be in the future, seeing as NV appear to be going 2 way sli and mainstreamers won't need tons of storage lanes.
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for gaming yeh
optane stuff looks interesting but i bet not affordable/great for a while!?
nothing pushing us to upgrade here!
 
Do we know the release date yet?
I was thinking of getting an i5 for now then get the 7700k when this comes out, but doesnt look like its worth waiting for, so a 6700k now is looking more likely
 
los said:
Do we know the release date yet?
I was thinking of getting an i5 for now then get the 7700k when this comes out, but doesnt look like its worth waiting for, so a 6700k now is looking more likely
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Later this year probably around September/ October time

Don't forget that Kabylake's first chips may launch at the same time as the new 'Union Point' '200' series motherboards with forward compatibility to Cannonlake CPU's on the cards and newer features over the '100' series boards (like say the Z170)
 
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DragonQ said:
Which begs the question...what is it meant to be?
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It's Intel keeping OEMs happy, now they can advertise their products as featuring "7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processors" with "upto 40% faster graphics performance!".
 
They are working on the big leap forward, it should happen by 2020.

Not just Intel either, lots of companies/groups have things in the pipeline that will change computing massively when it's all combined.
 
I don't see why people are still so surprised?

I've said countless times before but Intel mainstream is nothing but mobile processors repackaged for the desktop and thus at this stage they are only focusing on improving the iGPU and increasing power efficiency.

If you want a faster processor then their enthusiast line offers up to 250% improvement (10 cores) but very little software actually utilises that amount of processing power. They have no real incentive to drastically improve the speed of their cores with AMD still miles behind, the only people who currently want a faster core are enthusiasts who are largely irrelevent in the grand scheme of things.
 
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sigh i hate to admit it but thats true. the cpu improvements feel so lacklustre when juxtaposed to the improvements we are getting in gpus
 
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