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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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Oh god, I go away for a an evening, and when I come back there's another 20 pages.

Ok anyway

On the whole 390x having TDP of 208 listed from these images( credit to fatart123).
Firstly is doesn't say TDP it says power consumption, and MSi have it the same for the 290x as well.
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Taken from here down in the comments.


ok moving on.

Boomstick posted these, cheers Boom.
Boomstick777 said:
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triss said:
Without knocking the card what i will say is those hoses do look short, but i do think most AiOs hoses are to short
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I must say that I do agree, even to the point that looking at my Cooler master HAF932, I'm not even sure that one would fit at all. (using the rear fan mounting)
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With the way the hoses and plenum/shroud are fitted, I think they would have to go on the vertical facing rather than the horizontal and they definitely do not look long enough for that.

And finally

4GB HBM.

It wont be a magical bullet, at the end of the day it is still only 4GB of memory.

Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying that the Furry wont be a stonking card, But only having 4GB of ram will be a limitation.

My reasoning:

If a game developer writes a game that uses 6GB of space for its graphical needs, then 4GB isn't enough period.

Even if the Furry has some amazing new compression method, then it will be said compression method that makes the card not the 4GB of HBM.

The bandwidth numbers look great, compared to GDDR5, but where is this information being sent from? system ram, or HDD/SDD both much much slower, so the extra bandwidth is of no help anyway.

If somehow 4GB HBM can do all this wonderful magical stuff and replace much bigger amount of GDDR5 with no drawbacks then why is HBM2 planned with up to 32GB.
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
curious, even though it's a rebrand, if the 390x has a much lower tdp than the 290x, with 8gb thrown in and more performance....if it comes in at a very attractive price ie less than £350, would that tempt anyone here? does a couple of brand new 8gb cards in crossfire sound attractive to anyone with older cards?
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Put that down to £300 with a quiet cooling solution and you got yourselves a deal! Otherwise, it's looking more and more likely that I'll just buy a GTX 970. And it would technically be the first desktop Nvidia graphics card I've bought (laptop GPUs don't count), so nothing lost or gained there. I hope AMD give me a very good reason to go for a 390/390x. I.e. by providing better price/performance than a 970.
 
mahius said:
Put that down to £300 with a quiet cooling solution and you got yourselves a deal! Otherwise, it's looking more and more likely that I'll just buy a GTX 970. And it would technically be the first desktop Nvidia graphics card I've bought (laptop GPUs don't count), so nothing lost or gained there. I hope AMD give me a very good reason to go for a 390/390x. I.e. by providing better price/performance than a 970.
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390x should have no problem beating a 970, a 290x is already neck and neck.
 
mahius said:
Put that down to £300 with a quiet cooling solution and you got yourselves a deal! Otherwise, it's looking more and more likely that I'll just buy a GTX 970. And it would technically be the first desktop Nvidia graphics card I've bought (laptop GPUs don't count), so nothing lost or gained there. I hope AMD give me a very good reason to go for a 390/390x. I.e. by providing better price/performance than a 970.
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£300 and that would be a very attractive deal. If AMD could get their act together on crossfire profile and crossfire freesync working, 2 8gb cards all be it a rebrand might be a strong combo indeed until Pascal arrives next year. Crossfire 390x could smash a 980ti for the same price and not be limited by 4gb VRAM like the Furry X might well be....that's very attractive indeed.
 
ihatelag said:
Interview worth reading about HBM http://www.redgamingtech.com/amd-ex...ssfx-graphics-technology-with-robert-hallock/
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And why would they not explicitly address the issue of VRAM amount?

The 980 TI was released two weeks ago with 6 GB VRAM, why would AMD not try to reassure people that the amount of VRAM on HBM is equatable to a larger amount of GDDR5 memory? The lack of marketing from AMD in this regard leads many to believe 4 GB HBM is still only 4 GB VRAM.
 
32gb might be for workstation cards initially.

It's going to be years before games can use 32gb, although nVidia will probably release their Titan cards with it as a selling point.
 
Ayahuasca said:
390x should have no problem beating a 970, a 290x is already neck and neck.
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Ahem
mahius said:
better price/performance than a 970
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It's great and all if it's more powerful than the 970, but if it's priced like a 980... then that's a big fail there on AMD's part.

TonyTurbo78 said:
£300 and that would be a very attractive deal. If AMD could get their act together on crossfire profile and crossfire freesync working, 2 8gb cards all be it a rebrand might be a strong combo indeed until Pascal arrives next year. Crossfire 390x could smash a 980ti for the same price and not be limited by 4gb VRAM like the Furry X might well be....that's very attractive indeed.
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Don't forget the quiet coolers! I won't buy a 390x if it makes my PC sound like a leafblower. Hopefully the MSI Gaming version releases quickly, I know that cooler is quiet.
 
ihatelag said:
Interview worth reading about HBM http://www.redgamingtech.com/amd-ex...ssfx-graphics-technology-with-robert-hallock/
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Thanks for that. The following stood out:
Hallock said:
“AMD TrueAudio is particularly salient in this new world of virtual reality, where three-dimensional auditory cues must align with three-dimensional visual cues. It’s very disorienting if these two senses are mismatched, and AMD alone offers the hardware/software solutions to unite the two at high speed and with high quality. That’s all I can say for now
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Sounds good. Wonder how significant an impact it has in-game in VR.
 
Are people seriously questioning how good HBM1 is purely on the basis that HBM2 is being worked on? They're working on HBM2 like they work on new architectures and die shrinks, technology marches on and standing around applauding yourself for your awesome tech is a recipe for future failure.

The fact HBM2 is in the pipeline has absolutely no bearing on how good HBM1 is, it's just the way of technology, no doubt they'll be planning HBM3 at this moment of time too.
 
Awesome that they're including a Gentle Typhoon fan for the FuryX radiator. Best fans on the market by far below the £30 mark (and yeah there are 120x25 fans above £30). Particularly awesome as I have a stack of them in my current build and for future builds (at one stage it seemed like they might be discontinued or only made available to OEMs).
 
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