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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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Bonjour said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't that just say the 980 gets higher FPS?

Boom even says that the 980 has higher peak FPS, as corroborated by hexus, but that the 290 is smoother.

Highest FPS does not always equate to best experience, as nvidia themselves went to great pains to teach us.
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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/sapphire-vapor-x-r9-290x-8gb,review-33067-3.html

the 970 4gb looks smooth against the 290x 8gb both look the same smoothness. Maybe it's different in person I don't know.
 
Bonjour said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't that just say the 980 gets higher FPS?

Boom even says that the 980 has higher peak FPS, as corroborated by hexus, but that the 290 is smoother.

Highest FPS does not always equate to best experience, as nvidia themselves went to great pains to teach us.
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GSYNC FTW :D

Wait until you see the 980 using DX12 though, should be much smoother i think.
 
Bonjour said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't that just say the 980 gets higher FPS?

Boom even says that the 980 has higher peak FPS, as corroborated by hexus, but that the 290 is smoother.

Highest FPS does not always equate to best experience, as nvidia themselves went to great pains to teach us.
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I just ran Mordor on this little r9 280 maxed out and the vram isn't going above 3gb it's hoovering around 2800mb. I think games only use vram is much as they need too. Even on my old 6gb 780 the vram went up to around 5600/5800mb so who really knows how much you need if it's going to be like that.

By all means more vram the better but I don't think you need 8gbs unless you go for 4k. 6gb is a sweet spot but 4gbs I think will last a while. Gutted how I couldn't get my 6gb 780 back they gave me a 4gb 980 as a replacement :(
 
thisiswar88 said:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/76685-sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-vapor-x-8gb/?page=9

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/76685-sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-vapor-x-8gb/?page=9

according to these benchmarks the 4gb 980 runs better than the 8gb 290x in all games.
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That's at 1080P, if you look at the 4K results on the same page the 290X 8GB wins in min and max FPS against the 980, I wasn't referring to peak FPS anyway but the 290X does pull ahead at higher res there.

What I was originally referring to was less / drops stutters with more vram. The 980 generally does get higher peak FPS than the 290X / Titan Black etc, but from my own experience, games that need a lot of vram Shadow of Mordor / Wolfenstein run much better for me, smoother / no stutter on the 290X 8GB. I game @ 1440P with 290X 8GB. My boys love the 980, they game at 1080P.

You can see how much the extra memory buffer helps performance. Playing the game with both the 290X 8GB and GTX 980, the 290X 8GB does give noticeable better game experience, smooth etc. As games are only going to get more demanding, the 290X 8GB makes a lot of sense, especially at it's current price point. I'm going to hold out for another 8GB card before upgrading, unless DX12 really does find a way to remove the limitation with tiled resources or something. Tbh though I'll just wait for 390X 8GB, or if I absolutely must an 8GB GM200 (I really don't want to have to go to the dark side :p)

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Boomstick777 said:
That's at 1080P, if you look at the 4K results on the same page the 290X 8GB wins in min and max FPS against the 980, I wasn't referring to peak FPS anyway but the 290X does pull ahead at higher res there.

What I was originally referring to was less / drops stutters with more vram. The 980 generally does get higher peak FPS than the 290X / Titan Black etc, but from my own experience, games that need a lot of vram Shadow of Mordor / Wolfenstein run much better for me, smoother / no stutter on the 290X 8GB. I game @ 1440P with 290X 8GB. My boys love the 980, they game at 1080P.

You can see how much the extra memory buffer helps performance. Playing the game with both the 290X 8GB and GTX 980, the 290X 8GB does give noticeable better game experience, smooth etc. As games are only going to get more demanding, the 290X 8GB makes a lot of sense, especially at it's current price point. I'm going to hold out for another 8GB card before upgrading, unless DX12 really does find a way to remove the limitation with tiled resources or something. Tbh though I'll just wait for 390X 8GB, or if I absolutely must an 8GB GM200 (I really don't want to have to go to the dark side :p)

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So do you think I should cancel getting the 980 and get something else? I mean I can pick anything in the 430 price range.

You've also got to think about the amount of games using Nvidias features and amd gpus are suffering because of it. Nvidia hold a lot of the market and amd are still in big debt

I for one are pi**ed at nvidia over the 970 and 960.
 
thisiswar88 said:
So do you think I should cancel getting the 980 and get something else? I mean I can pick anything in the 430 price range.

You've also got to think about the amount of games using Nvidias features and amd gpus are suffering because of it. Nvidia hold a lot of the market and amd are still in big debt

I for one are pi**ed at nvidia over the 970 and 960.
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If you game at 1080P the 980 is still the card to get, it's fast cool and quiet.

If you're at 1440P or 4K the choice becomes harder imho, a 290X 8GB is £300 the GTX 980 is £450. That's a big difference in price and not a big difference in performance at higher resolution. Especially when you consider that the 8GB really does pay off in some of the newer games.

1080P ~ GTX 980
1440P ~ 290X 8GB / GTX 980
4K ~ 290X 8GB
 
Boomstick777 said:
If you game at 1080P the 980 is still the card to get, it's fast cool and quiet.

If you're at 1440P or 4K the choice becomes harder, a 290X 8GB is £300 the GTX 980 is £450. That's a big difference in price and not a big difference in performance at higher resolution. Especially when you consider that the 8GB really does pay off in some of the newer games.

1080P ~ GTX 980
1440P ~ 290X 8GB / GTX 980
4K ~ 290X 8GB
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I game at 1080p but like I said previously I have seen games like mordor, cod aw hit 5500mb on my old 6gb 780 but this r9 280 3gb's vram is nearly max's out and doesn't affect performance. So its kinda hard to judge how much you need.

I don't know if games are just maxing vram for the sake of it due to bad ports.
 
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thisiswar88 said:
I game at 1080p but like I said previously I have seen games like mordor, cod aw hit 5500mb on my old 6gb 780 but this r9 280 3gb's vram is nearly max's out and doesn't affect performance. So its kinda hard to judge how much you need.
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If you have the funds and are planning on sticking with the 1080P for a while you can't go wrong with the GTX 980. It's very fast at 1080P, runs everything with ease. No idea how it will handle future games, but I imagine it will be well optimized at 1080P for the next couple of years until Pascal launches, by then GDDR5 will be old hat, and we will all be using stacked memory GPU's anyway :p


Yeah I would say go with a 980 and enjoy it. Keep it until Pascal / AMD alternative and then step up to a higher resolution / screen if you fancy it.

I'm using 32" 1440P screen and the difference it makes is night / day. Because I am at this res already I'll just stick with the higher vram cards..

The option is if you can wait until AMD launch the 3XX series and see what they are like.. Might effect prices on current stuff as well..
 
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Boomstick777 said:
If you have the funds and are planning on sticking with the 1080P for a while you can't go wrong with the GTX 980. It's very fast at 1080P, runs everything with ease. No idea how it will handle future games, but I imagine it will be well optimized at 1080P for the next couple of years until Pascal launches, by then GDDR5 will be old hat, and we will all be using stacked memory GPU's anyway :p


Yeah I would say go with a 980 and enjoy it. Keep it until Pascal / AMD alternative and then step up to a higher resolution / screen if you fancy it.

I'm using 32" 1440P screen and the difference it makes is night / day. Because I am at this res already I'll just stick with the higher vram cards..

The option is if you can wait until AMD launch the 3XX series and see what they are like.. Might effect prices on current stuff as well..
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yeah the new hbm vram AMD are bringing is drawing me in but what I've heard is the 380/370 are normal gddr5 where as the 390/390x/395x are getting the hbm treatment.

I like amd but the main reasons that put me off them is the debt they are in, driver support and failure rate which is higher than nvidia's.

I like how they offer best bang for the buck and make nvidia drop prices but I don't know if I have the balls to buy a high end amd gpu. I mean my mate is on his 3rd 290.

But because nvidia are pouring the features into games I don't know how amd are going to cope with it because every new release has nvidia tech in it. far cry 4, the crew, assassins unity, dying light, watch dogs, witcher 3, titanfall the list goes on and I'm sure there will be plenty more.

plus it's only msi and sapphire that do the 8gb 290x both companys are way out for rma'ing! and sapphire only offer 2 years and are unreliable that's who my mate choose and he's on his 3rd one.

wish nvidia brough 6gbs as standard for the 970 and 980!
 
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