Yes the 980ti is a bargain right now if you keep your eye on S/H prices you can pick them up for close to £200 and if you are ok with Sil two cards will easily beat 1080ti and for less then £500.
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Yes the 980ti is a bargain right now if you keep your eye on S/H prices you can pick them up for close to £200 and if you are ok with Sil two cards will easily beat 1080ti and for less then £500.
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Nearly £650 and no backplate!
You're sure about that?
http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/xfx-geforce-6800-ultra
How about a top end card being £400 (in 2004) and the 2nd top (6800) being £250 (I had one, bought from OcUK).
Instead of the top card (actually Titan) being £1000+, and the 2nd top (the Ti) being £700.
8800 Ultra was over £500 back in 2007. https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/graphics/nvidia_geforce_8800_ultra/1/
Pricey cards all round now though and lack of serious competition isn't helping
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Some thermal Grizzlie on the die and should do well 
Tempting, specially with Phanteks waterblock ... 'D
Tempting, specially with Phanteks waterblock ... 'D
I know this is a bit stupid but all the cards are sold in USD and in 2004 it was pretty much 2:1 and now its 1.3 which is about £600, still a bit short of the £700 or so of the new ti top card (the titan isnt the top card really any more than the vega FE [especially as its been slower in quite a few benchmarks this year and all around slower last year] will be a top card for radeon gaming its just an early adopters tax).
This. Many seems to not understand the MASSIVE exchange rate difference, increase in VAT and inflation. Titan being the exception, graphics card prices are the same as they have always been.
I mean even the Titan price wasnt a first. Counting for inflation the 8800 ultra would be ~$1000 now.
Aside from they've pulled the same trick as the food industry and you are actually paying the same or slightly more for less and many people are oblivious or even deny it.
8800 Ultra was over £500 back in 2007. https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/graphics/nvidia_geforce_8800_ultra/1/
Pricey cards all round now though and lack of serious competition isn't helping
To be fair nobody actually bought that card. It was just an overclocked 8800GTX.
The £ was a lot stronger then as well. So actually the 8800GTX would actually cost ($599-$649) £550+ if it was sold today. 7900GTX was $499.
With the Titan, yes i agree (apart from the silly 8800 ultra price).
Everything else is very similar to what it has always been, especially when accounting for inflation. The 5900 Ultra was $499 in 2003. Accounting for inflation and you get around $670...rrp for 1080ti is $699.
More if you account for inflation. The 8800GTX today with inflation would be ~$730, so even higher rrp than the 1080Ti.
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
Look at the GTX1070 - aside from being decently specced for VRAM the performance over the previous generation cards, core size versus max possible, general selection of electronics, etc. is the equivalent of for instance the GTX460 which was a £200-£250 or something card at launch.
The Titan *is* the top card and the 1080ti *is* the 2nd top card.
The 6800 Ultra was the very top card in 2004.
So you have:
6800 Ultra £400 -> Titan £1000+ at the top
6800 £250 -> 1080ti (£700) at 2nd top.
Saying "oh the Titan doesn't count" is just giving a free ride to nV. The Titan *does* count and the 1080ti is only the 2nd top card no matter how you look at it.
That is just your opinion on what price you deem which card in a line up should be. That is a very difficult thing to quantify without extreme analysis on the price/performance of each card in the line up. This would likely vary from generation to generation.
For example the 200 series. 280 was $649 and the 260 was $399 on release. If compare that to the 1000 series (again im going to exclude the Titan as admittedly that is the exception) :
Ti - $699
1070 - $379
The 280 was only 15-20% faster than the 260, yet there was a $250 difference
The 1080 Ti is a good 50%+ faster across all resolutions compared with a 1070 for a $320 difference.
260 though was a far better specced card in comparison to previous gen performance and the core spec (a little harder to compare as it just used a big core with parts disabled) the 260 today would be slightly further up the line than a GTX1080 even.
Exactly. Exactly!
They've priced the 2nd top tier same as the previous top tier and made a new price tier above it for the genuine top card.
Lots of people do acknowledge this, but there are some who are living in complete denial, even now. Just because you give the top tier card a unique product name (Titan instead of 1090), doesn't mean the 1080ti is suddenly the top card.
No one is giving them a free ride. I think everyone realises the Titan is on the whole a mickey take, just like the 8800 ultra was.
It doesn't really matter though because the Ti cards have always been essentially putting out the same gaming performance (save for a few percent) so they can easily be ignored. Then you are left with a top tier card with an RRP that is similar to many that have come before for the last 15 years.
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But almost everything (especially electronic we import) is more expensive than it was in 2004, why would you expect PC parts to be the exception to the rule?
People are probably earning more than in 2004 to, I know I am.
CPU prices and motherboard are probably more expensive too.
I suspect console release prices have increased since 2004 too.