Pre-planning

Always remember the 7 Ps

Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance

I suppose you could expand that to 8?

Prior Pre-Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance :p
 
Judgeneo said:
it - preproplastinating is probably a more accurate term for those activites though.
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A what?

There is stuff you need to know before making a useful plan, that is ore planning.
No point me just trying to plan something with out the starting blocks.

So I've had a quick look at land prices, laws, food prices etc.

I have know move on to the planning stage which shapes those basics into a full plan and looks into them in far more detail.

So pre planning is gathering the basics needed to make a full plan.

In the war thing, it simply euphemises that plans where drawn up well in advance. which is another common usage of ore-planned and again makes sense.
It's all planning so you are totally missing the subtle differences between the usages.
 
Seems daft to me. Planning is the phase before doing. It can be split up, but pre-planning is just planning.

To me, the 'planning' phase of any project involves research, gathering resources & people, speccing the project, designing the 'thing'. it's all planning.
 
Understand where the OP is coming from, but I've always thought of "pre-planning" as the "requirements gathering" phase, before the actual planning starts... i.e. what am I planning for, and what does my plan need to achieve.
 
Does the OP have issues with the terms 'pre-production' and 'post-production'? They're both part of 'production' but they help distinguish between different phases of the production process.

It's just adding detail to something to distinguish phases, which can be helpful to those involved.
 
hughtrimble said:
Does the OP have issues with the terms 'pre-production' and 'post-production'? They're both part of 'production' but they help distinguish between different phases of the production process.

It's just adding detail to something to distinguish phases, which can be helpful to those involved.
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Post-production was historically just an editting process, the filming was already done, it just had to be put together correctly, so no issues from me there.

From wiki "Pre-production ends when the planning ends and the content starts being produced."

So pre-production doesn't include any production. So the use of the pre prefix is fine
 
Judgeneo said:
Pre-plan:
verb [with object] (usually as adjective pre-planned)
  • Plan in advance
Plan
verb (plans, planning, planned)[with object]
  • Decide on and make arrangements for in advance
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Simultaneous equation time:
(1) Plan = Decide on and make arrangements for in advance
(2) Pre-plan = Plan in advance

Substitute "Plan" into (2);
Pre-plan = (Decide on and make arrangements for in advance) in advance

So, you are making plans in advance of needing the plans, or in advance of making The Plan. It's probably not quite as stupid as it first seems.
 
hughtrimble said:
Does the OP have issues with the terms 'pre-production' and 'post-production'? They're both part of 'production' but they help distinguish between different phases of the production process.

It's just adding detail to something to distinguish phases, which can be helpful to those involved.
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This really.

As others have pointed out, there are things you need to do before you can make a plan. You need to get information, people, resources, appointments/meetings setup. Once you have all the data/research/information gathered, with all the necessary people in a meeting, then you can commence planning. All of that prior work before actually meeting to put heads together is pre-planning.
 
I get the OP point that is really means the same thing though 'pre-planned' can be used to ephasise that something was planned prior. For example, simply saying "the defendant planned how to dispose of the body" doesn't explain whether the planned disposal was prior to the murder or after. Obviously you could say "Prior to the murder the defendant planned how to dispose of the body" or alternativaly "the defendant pre-planned how to dispose of the body" works too.
 
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