Premiums get HDMI

davejm · 10 Aug 2007 at 10:45

NokkonWud said:
Also, the games are output at 720p so 1080p is a moot point.

There are 1080p games starting to appear now.

VIRII · 10 Aug 2007 at 11:15

davejm said:
There are 1080p games starting to appear now.

I can't see a 1080p TV appearing in my house any time soon though

Bonjour · 10 Aug 2007 at 11:16

Nice.

Looks like I'll be selling my launch day core to a mate and picking up one of the new HDMI Premiums.

HDMI is just too handy to pass up..

NokkonWud · 10 Aug 2007 at 12:38

davejm said:
There are 1080p games starting to appear now.

They will output an upscaled representation of a 720p developed game though.

Snow-Munki · 10 Aug 2007 at 12:50

rather than starting a new thread you reckon that 1080p wil ever only be on larger LCD's ? 37'' +

As surely that already narrows the market down a LOT ?

Burned_Alive · 10 Aug 2007 at 12:51

a lot of peoples tvs wont even support 1080p anyway, so its not worth upgrading because the current 360 can do 720p fine.

ic1male · 10 Aug 2007 at 12:55

Unless you're getting a massive TV for Blu-ray or HD-DVD, it's probably not worth getting a 1080p model until the next lot of consoles appear with 1080p gaming in 2011 or whenever.

Warbie · 10 Aug 2007 at 13:15

Agreed. I'm gaming on 110" projector screen at the moment - PS3 at 1080p and 360 at 720p (my receiver converts to this when upconverting component to HDMI) and, other than text which looks a little sharper on the PS3, there's very little between them when you start playing.

I'd go for a 1080p/24 screen if HDDVD and Blu-ray was your main concern, but for gaming, any of the hi def resolutions are fine, especially on the averaged sized tele.

davejm · 10 Aug 2007 at 13:23

NokkonWud said:
They will output an upscaled representation of a 720p developed game though.

Nah man... there are 1080p rendered games being developed. Virtua Tennis 3 is one example, and is already out.

There won't be many though. Developers are being encouraged to develop in 720p as MS state this is the 'sweetspot' for performance/graphical quality.

Dutch Guy · 10 Aug 2007 at 13:24

ic1male said:
Unless you're getting a massive TV for Blu-ray or HD-DVD, it's probably not worth getting a 1080p model until the next lot of consoles appear with 1080p gaming in 2011 or whenever.

I think 1080p games will be here much sooner than 2011

Then again the difference betwwen 720p and 1080p isn't as big as the difference between CRT 576p and LCD 720p

Bigpops · 10 Aug 2007 at 14:15

NokkonWud said:
They will output an upscaled representation of a 720p developed game though.

Virtua Tennis 3 is rendered natively at 1080p on both the 360 and the PS3. It's not upscaled.

RuMp3l4$k1n · 10 Aug 2007 at 14:22

1080p what is this number! please call it by its correct retail buzz word 'Full HD' yes thats right the TV you bought last year that we told you was HD ready is now obsolete you need a 'True HD' set.........just look for the special stickers on selected models.

What a load of hog ****.

chaparral · 10 Aug 2007 at 14:30

RuMp3l4$k1n said:
1080p what is this number! please call it by its correct retail buzz word 'Full HD' yes thats right the TV you bought last year that we told you was HD ready is now obsolete you need a 'True HD' set That makes your SD signals which you spend 90% of your time watching everyday looks like crap.........just look for the special stickers on selected models.

What a load of hog ****.

Fixed

NokkonWud · 10 Aug 2007 at 14:30

I thought it's buzzword was True HD?

RuMp3l4$k1n · 10 Aug 2007 at 14:36

^^I have seen both stamped on TVs over the last few days its ridiculous.
lol chaparral

Dutch Guy · 10 Aug 2007 at 14:44

HD Ready = 720p or 1366*768 resolution
Full HD = 1080p or 1920*1080 resolution

But this isn't the whole story, the quality of the scaler in the LCD depends on how good the image is, the scaler on my 40W2000 is excellent (when all the post effects are off) so SD cable is still good quality.

thecremeegg · 10 Aug 2007 at 17:36

Nice one microsoft - screw over your customer base, jeez
Hype up the elite as having HDMI as a seeling point, let people buy them at the higher price without telling them that the normal 360s are having HDMI anyway. Whilst it may be good for new owners, i think its a bit of a disgrace tbh

Burned_Alive · 10 Aug 2007 at 17:46

thecremeegg said:
Nice one microsoft - screw over your customer base, jeez
Hype up the elite as having HDMI as a seeling point, let people buy them at the higher price without telling them that the normal 360s are having HDMI anyway. Whilst it may be good for new owners, i think its a bit of a disgrace tbh

Ignoring the fact that the Elite hasnt been released here yet and so nobody has bought them

Sclodion · 10 Aug 2007 at 17:47

Dutch Guy said:
HD Ready = 720p or 1366*768 resolution

Not quite true, anything that can decode HD no matter what the output display resolution = HD Ready.
Even low res plasmas such as 704 x 480 resolution as long as they can take an HD input can be called HD Ready even though the viewing experience is blatantly not at HD resolution due to downscaling required.

Burned_Alive · 10 Aug 2007 at 18:01

Sclodion said:
Not quite true, anything that can decode HD no matter what the output display resolution = HD Ready.
Even low res plasmas such as 704 x 480 resolution as long as they can take an HD input can be called HD Ready even though the viewing experience is blatantly not at HD resolution due to downscaling required.

No, the industry standard for "HD Ready" is a minimum of 720p, the display also needs to accept HD input via component, dvi or hdmi.

Although, any display lower than this could still be referred to as HD compatible.