PREVIEW: Intel 3820 (Socket 2011) Processor - OC Results!

Alkalinepro5 · 27 Jan 2012 at 13:09

Concorde Rules said:
Technically the SB-E *are* 8-core chips, just with 2/4 cores disabled.

IB itself will only be 4 cores/8 threads

IB-E, which isn't until the end of 2012/early 2013 are 8 cores/16 threads.

Thanks. My technical knowledge in this area is slightly lacking.

Buckster · 27 Jan 2012 at 19:49

half tempted - but I don't see the advantage over a 2700k +mid-range Gen 3 Z68 board ?

2700k likely to clock higher - and is still "8 cores"

Buckster · 27 Jan 2012 at 19:50

Concorde Rules said:
Technically the SB-E *are* 8-core chips, just with 2/4 cores disabled.

IB itself will only be 4 cores/8 threads

IB-E, which isn't until the end of 2012/early 2013 are 8 cores/16 threads.

thought the bit highlighted in bold of your post - was busted ? I'd read the 3820 is its own design - which is a good thing

here we go - completely different die

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...s/intel-core-i7-3820-1056139/review?artc_pg=2

mind you in that same review - on next page - a 2700k at stock seems quicker in some games and apps than a 3820 overclocked ?? I'm not sure how that works - but it seems that way

HHM · 28 Jan 2012 at 22:41

Buckster said:
same review - on next page - a 2700k at stock seems quicker in some games and apps than a 3820 overclocked ?? I'm not sure how that works - but it seems that way

Just read it, a shame really, especially considered generally high X79 costs

X79, though, (as I understand it), is a better future-platform, for the "few" of us doing video, render and 3D, and related stuff, due to the memmory system,
and upcumming 8-cores, it might make sense with a 3820 as just a stepstone
untill the 8-cores are out

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 02:21

Don't forget the X79 platform is also beneficial for anyone working with music using their PC as a DAW (digital audio workstation) as well as video editing & future proofing.

How long will it be before a developer releases a highly threaded version of an epic game?

Sooner than you might think I'd imagine

SB-E > IB-E is clearly the way forward don't be put off by the 2600k brigade's negative comments.

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 02:35

Also can't wait to see how the 8 core 16 thread 20mb cache SB-EP monster chip performs when its released at the start of March this year and if it'll affect the price of the 3930k 3960x at all.

andybird123 · 29 Jan 2012 at 09:56

Sb ep definitely wont affect sbe pricing, intel high end server prices are ludicrous

Alkalinepro5 · 29 Jan 2012 at 10:07

Ghøst said:
Also can't wait to see how the 8 core 16 thread 20mb cache SB-EP monster chip performs when its released at the start of March this year and if it'll affect the price of the 3930k 3960x at all.

If you want to pay £3,500+ for a CPU then go ahead!

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 12:27

Data center material right enough then, so its back to waiting on some real world overclocking & bench results from the 3820 in a couple of weeks time before making a decision between that and the 3930k.

Socket 1155 doesn't really make sense anymore for new builds if the 3820 is the same price as a 2700k give or take a few quid.

Buckster · 29 Jan 2012 at 14:30

I'm about to do a new build- and not sure on tyour coment Ghost

I mean if the 2700k (if ...) can clock higher - then why does 1155 socket not make sense ?

also I guess IB-E will be more expensive than IB ?

Buckster · 29 Jan 2012 at 14:48

mind you this review is rather positive - I am half tempted if its cheaper than a 2700k- the mobos are only 40 quid or so moretoo

only negative seems higher power consumption

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-3820.html

Alkalinepro5 · 29 Jan 2012 at 15:14

Most review sites seem to be getting 4.7-4.75ghz stable for the 3820 which seems pretty good.

Lets be honest most 2700k's won't hit much more than that. Granted a few have been able to get 5, but most realistically will max out at 4.8.

I think this is what I'm going to get in the Summer.

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 15:28

Buckster said:
I'm about to do a new build- and not sure on tyour coment Ghost

I mean if the 2700k (if ...) can clock higher - then why does 1155 socket not make sense ?

also I guess IB-E will be more expensive than IB ?

Bigger cache, quad channel RAM & Upgrade path to IB-E & probable 8 core if you ever wanted/needed = Future proofing to the max

As you say higher power consumption but meh.

Sandybridge or Ivybridge might still make sense if you say wanted a pc immediately but wanted to hold off for 5 or 6 months for NVidia's next gen GPU's then the onboard graphics could see you through.

I'd rather spend a little more now than a complete rebuild two years down the line.

It makes sense to go for the best platform available in my eyes.

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 15:31

I've been wrestling with this 1155 vs 2011 thing for more than two months with the money burning a hole in my pocket & the more time goes on and the more the price gap narrows the more appealing 2011 becomes.

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 15:39

In saying that if I had an old PC or laptop to be getting on with I'd just make do with that till Ivybridge was released & re-evaluate the situation again but to be honest I don't think there's gonna be any perceivable real world performance difference between sandy bridge & ivybridge.

Same performance for slightly less power & heat, neither of which really bothers me too much.

Alkalinepro5 · 29 Jan 2012 at 16:00

Power / Heat has never really bothered me. It's not like you are going to save any money. The power savings are so miniscule on the grand scheme of things its just not really a factor worth even considering.

Heat can be annoying.... But just couple it to a nice H100 with uprated fans in a push-pull configuration, and then hook that up to a fan controller and bam.

All is good ^_^

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 16:23

Also there was initially no native support for USB 3.0 with the x79 chipset but mobo manufacturers are adding their own USB 3.0 so if you do decide to take the plunge keep your eyes peeled for that cause that could deffo be handy somewhere down the line.

Ghøst · 29 Jan 2012 at 16:47

I still want a 3930k though

mmj_uk · 30 Jan 2012 at 12:56

Alkalinepro5 said:
You do realise there is room on an SB-E chip for 8 cores?

So IB-E is pretty much a sure thing for 8 cores, but no one can answer this with certainty. Either way IB-E is going to be amazingly good.

If AMD don't get their act together I'm not so sure, why would Intel release an octo core for £800 when they can release a faster clocked hex for the same and still dominate? IMO they will only release octo when their hex comes under threat from AMD, I bet the current SB-E would have been 8 core had Bulldozer not been such a massive failure.

Alkalinepro5 · 30 Jan 2012 at 13:41

mmj_uk said:
If AMD don't get their act together I'm not so sure, why would Intel release an octo core for £800 when they can release a faster clocked hex for the same and still dominate? IMO they will only release octo when their hex comes under threat from AMD, I bet the current SB-E would have been 8 core had Bulldozer not been such a massive failure.

This is true. I guess we will just have to wait and see!

I also think Ivy vanilla would be 6-core too instead of quad.