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Programmer workstation graphics card.

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I am speccing a high-end programmers workstation and do not know what level of graphic card I need. This new PC will never run games software, edit video or play DVDs but it will need to support oodles of multi-monitor desktop space running under Windows 7. The M/B will be supporting an overclocked Sandybridge so that rules out on-chip Intel graphics.

The central screen will be 30" @ 2560 x 1600 with my existing 1600 x 1200 monitor (DVI input} to the side. A 3rd screen of around 20" is a possibility in the future.

Software development tools create diagrams these days but otherwise it's all text and rectangles.

I don't want the VGA card(s) to be a performance bottleneck however neither do I wish to throw money at some hot high-end card that adds to case noise.

What graphic card should I buy?
 
if ur not doing games, then any card will not be a bottleneck as all it has to do is display the desktop

u could use the onboard for 1 display, overclocking doesn't rule it out.

if ur looking for cheap that will do the job, just get 2 cheap gpus, perhaps previous gen ones, they'll be good enough for the desktop
 
Are you going to be doing any 3d modelling, rendering etc?

An overclocked CPU is a bad idea if the system is intended for any serious work - especially if you're speccing on behalf of a client.
 
You can use a Z68 board to allow you to use the onboard SB GPU, so one monitor will connect to that, while the other two will connect to a bog standard cheap GPU. Any GPU will do and it will not bottleneck your work.
 
yeah no nvidia cards can run 3 monitors, however, u can run 2 of them to get 3 monitors

or 2 cheaper atis if u prefer
 
By the sounds of it an IDE such as Visual Studio/Eclipse and diagramming/UML software.
Yes Visual Studio, the recent versions allow internal windows to be dragged outside the main window of the app and onto other screens.

Once a program gets to 20,000 lines plus diagrams are needed to paint a picture of program structure. Then in other windows I will have a database query trace running, finally I might be running Firebug to trap execution of browser page JavaScript. All in all one expansive desktop but a low rate of UI update relative to a game I suspect.
 
You can use a Z68 board to allow you to use the onboard SB GPU, so one monitor will connect to that, while the other two will connect to a bog standard cheap GPU.
Yes a new Z68 is a logical choice but I have been following the first reviews on Anandtech and the initial perf numbers are far from stellar. The SSD caching of the Z68 is no benefit to me because a 128 Gb SSD is all the storage I need in my machine.
 
Are you going to be doing any 3d modelling, rendering etc?
Nope, nothing like that.

An overclocked CPU is a bad idea if the system is intended for any serious work - especially if you're speccing on behalf of a client.
The new PC is for personal use.

My last overclocked PC had a turbo button that hoiked the CPU from 20 to 25MgHz and I was hoping that 20 years later the auto overclocking discovery utility program available for an advanced Pro Asus motherboard made the whole o/c process more reliable.

I believe I would feel the difference between 3.6 and 4.6 GHz when working.
 
Well, if we was to go with an AMD card, what inputs do you need? Are both your current screens DVI? For an Eyefinity card to run three screens one must run off the Displayport, although you can use either an active adapter to convert it to DVI or a passive adapter to convert it to VGA.
 
I just thought I'd pick up on your comments about the turbo button of old.

The turbo button, as I recall, actually took a stock processor (like a 486 sx-25 that ran at 25MHz normally) down in speed, due to some programs not running properly on such 'fast' equipment.

One example I remember was Wing Commander in the gaming community, it got so fast that within half a second of a mission loading about 50 asteroids zoomed there way past the screen blowing your ship to crap before you even had a chance to operate the controls. The 'turbo' button was needed to slow the machine down so you got a normal and playable framerate again.

IMO you would not notice the difference between 3.4GHz and 4.6GHz whilst using normal desktop apps, you have to be doing something very CPU intensive to see the difference and that will come in something like gaming or an operation where you can see a progress bar move that takes N seconds, which could now be done about 25% faster with the overclock (assuming it's not bottlenecked on anything else in the hardware like disk).

Probably the most expensive CPU task you'll have running from those mentioned is the database, but if the queries it is doing are for realtime responses (OLTP style) this would also be so fast as to not appreciate the difference. Compiling may benefit but that depends on the size of the code chunks being compiled, 20k line apps or chunks would be a blink of an eye, 5 mil line apps could see a notable increase if compiling the lot at once.

Additionally, for the small bursts of cpu processing power, that may only last a second or less but be perceivable to you as being a moment of slowdown, the processor does have 'easy mode' overclocking built in where the CPU will 'turbo' itself up to as much as 3.8GHz, without you having to even press a button, and then lower itself again when the task is done or it can't sustain that setting any longer (heat/voltage).

Actual overclocking isn't particularly reliable ever, whenever you go outside the envelope and stay there, strange things can just happen (I've played multiple games end-to-end, movies, installed stuff, left it idle, done desktop stuff, for several hours of several days in the past week without any hitch, maxed single cores, maxed multiple cores, yet today I got a BSOD totally randomly - I am positive this wouldn't have occurred without an overclock in place). The programs make it easier to overclock, they don't make the machine any more reliable than the settings you're willing to push it through.

In terms of graphics card, anything would be fine for the purposes you've mentioned, even the on-CPU one.
 
I also do not play games and have the same sort of requirements, I use a single slot 5770 - this one:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-185-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515

with one of these:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-047-OK&groupid=1929&catid=1757&subcat=

I have no problems running one 30" DELL and two 24" DELLs. One of the 24" is running off the DP adapter. One 24" is portrait and the other is landscape, the 5770 handles everything effortlessly, and also has the advantage of being inaudible.

Catalyst Control Center is easy to use, and the optional HydraVision download (which integrates with CCC) is well worth using as it allows you to divide the screens up into user defined grids for easy snapping of windows which is sometimes useful.
 
y spend £100 on a gpu your not goign to use, 2 of these would do the job just fine

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-098-MS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1833

or

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-120-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=168

and at half the price

as nothing your doing is using hardware acceleration for the gpu, the gpu will only be displaying the screen, the rest is done by the CPU

if you want cheaper, then check if the onboard gpu can be run fine along side another gpu, then u'll only need 1 card for the 2 displays, and the 3rd from the onboard (some onboards are disabled when running a discreate gpu thou).

for the overclocking, i doubt u'll notice much difference in general use with the speed difference, the main thing that will make a difference is when compiling, and these would depend on how big the programs that your making are. I would suggest 8mb of ram thou, coz visual studio can really eat ram
 
Well, if we was to go with an AMD card, what inputs do you need? Are both your current screens DVI? For an Eyefinity card to run three screens one must run off the Displayport, although you can use either an active adapter to convert it to DVI or a passive adapter to convert it to VGA.
sldsmkd said:
Sapphire 6770 Flex 1GB. Available online for ~£105. Has additional circuitry over a regular 6770 so that you can drive 3 monitors from a single card without needing Display port.
 
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