Promoting British Values
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A deep-rooted sense of fair play, rooting for the underdog and complete distrust of Germans.
Totally bang on, most of us here would probably find it very hard to define what 'British Values' are, but no one here should be in any doubt what it's not. What Islamic Extremists want is Sharia law in this country. Which is Homophobic, Misogynist and Anti-Semitic, none of which is compatible with British Values
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Pretty good summary tbh.
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Don't forget curries too ! how would the British survive without curry...
Despite the rather bad OP it is something I do think about from time to time. British Values what makes "us" so special. I get asked this quite a bit from locals when I visit other countries I struggle to answer it if I'm honest.
Although some of the things that foreigners seem to always like to talk about with they think of the UK is. Royal Family, David Beckham..., Music (this always seems a big topic), Football, they also seem to think we are usually quite intelligent (they probably would not think that if they visited certain parts of the UK) and posh... That we are very good at hiding emotion/or just simply not displaying any emotion.
There are most likely other things but just a quick off the top of my head list. I do struggle to get enthusiastic about showing/talking about the UK and our “values”.
British values #1: Never shutting the **** up about winning the world cup in the 60s.
British values #2: Thinking every world cup since the 60s will be the year they win the world cup.
British values #3: Blaming losing the world cup on one player, despite the entire team being ****e.
British values #4: Terrorising the natives of whatever country the world cup is taking place in.
British values #5: Complaining about the natives of whatever country the world cup is taking place in.
British values #6: Starting every conversation about said natives with "I'm not racist but..."
British values #7: "Our boys".
British values #8: If you don't support "our boys" you're a terrorist and should go back to where you came from. Even if that's Devon.
British values #9: Complaining about where people come from and them taking all the jobs while drunkenly stuffing your face with all their delicious cuisine on a weekend.
British values #10: RULE BRITANNIA!
British values #2: Thinking every world cup since the 60s will be the year they win the world cup.
British values #3: Blaming losing the world cup on one player, despite the entire team being ****e.
British values #4: Terrorising the natives of whatever country the world cup is taking place in.
British values #5: Complaining about the natives of whatever country the world cup is taking place in.
British values #6: Starting every conversation about said natives with "I'm not racist but..."
British values #7: "Our boys".
British values #8: If you don't support "our boys" you're a terrorist and should go back to where you came from. Even if that's Devon.
British values #9: Complaining about where people come from and them taking all the jobs while drunkenly stuffing your face with all their delicious cuisine on a weekend.
British values #10: RULE BRITANNIA!
[FnG]magnolia;28033241 said:Welp, turns out I was wrong
Excuse me? So you think that a country being institutionally Homophobic, Misogynist and Anti-Semitic is compatible with British values?
I think you're were too quick to post a dig and not think about what it was you were posting
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British values are compassion, generosity, accepting, tolerant.
It did include the magna carta trial by jury and innocent until proven guilty as well, but labour did away with that.
What is the values of Saudi Arabia?
Beheading for having sex, public whipping if you wear the wrong clothes or say the wrong thing, arm chopped off for stealing, non arabs are second class citizens, intolerant of other cultures. Well sounds lovely.
It did include the magna carta trial by jury and innocent until proven guilty as well, but labour did away with that.
What is the values of Saudi Arabia?
Beheading for having sex, public whipping if you wear the wrong clothes or say the wrong thing, arm chopped off for stealing, non arabs are second class citizens, intolerant of other cultures. Well sounds lovely.
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Hang on, let's remove the "us" part of this.
The OP is a troll thread but your admission that you don't know what British Values are, as a UK citizen with a Chinese immigrant partner, whilst being a huge supporter of UKIP who themselves have very limited tolerance for immigrants, and who has recently posted in a thread about a UK citizen asking for views on how best to move to Australia (i.e. become an immigrant) and then posting in that thread with nothing other than anti-immigrant rhetoric ... you, of all people, don't know what British Values are?
Are you serious?
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You don't know what the British Values are, as you stated. How can they not be compatible?
Not any more I suspect. 'I'm alright Jack' seems to be 'in'.
sorry if this is a bit arrogant but colonialism had plenty of good outcomes:
Australia, Canada, the USA, New Zeland, Hong Kong, Singapore....
even in places like India it brought together a bunch of tiny backwards kingdoms and gave them a railway infrastructure, civil service, legal system, education system etc.. essentially connecting them to the rest of the world and creating a state
sure violence was used at times but the primary aim was simply trade and the British Army wasn't actually much bigger back then than it is now... a lot of the empire relied on cooperation from the local population of various colonies
also obligatory muslamic comment (since this is a GD thread about 'British' values)
just be grateful that the country best placed to project power at the time was a country that went through the enlightenment and introduced a common law justice system around the world rather than some 'muslamic' state spreading Islam and trying to implement a legal system based on sharia principles
Most of the above appear to be English rather than British traits....
Yeah I'll convert that list to Scottish values and traits for you...
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The British Empire was brutal no doubt about that but they were not barbaric as far i am aware. Often they took over regions without war and ended up improving the region economically. These days many countries arguably remain in the common wealth voluntarily. At the time of the british empire was in its peak there was several other countries with similar empires, spain, portugal, holland and france. China had done its fair share as well. Before that was a history of endless wars and conflicts of religion and land. These days that is all in the past, that would be like shaming the uk today because of slavery.
I don't know what country you are from op, but you should be ashamed that its so rubbish it never had an empire.
I don't know what country you are from op, but you should be ashamed that its so rubbish it never had an empire.
[FnG]magnolia;28033296 said:
British Values are pretty much the same values are the rest of the first world countries. There's a level of civilization where we don't go round being Homophobic, Misogynist and Anti-Semitic, as all of those are pretty much against the law in the UK, where in middle-east countries it's practically part of the law. And while the UK doesn't use capital punishment or cruel and unusual punishments like removing body parts or lashes, a lot of middle-eastern countries use these as everyday normality. It's wholly incompatible at any level and i'm surprised i had to lay it all out for you.
I didn't want to use fluffy words like "tolerance, fair play etc etc" because they don't really describe adequately what British Values are, but it's easy to define what it's not using examples outside of Britain and see how we are different, if you take this to be anti-immigrant rhetoric then shame on you for pulling the race card like an archetypal Social-Justice-warrior for trying to open the debate
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[FnG]magnolia;28033296 said:
I think his point about not being able to easily define British values is valid. Our values are so deeply ingrained within us, that its often hard for us to identify what is that makes us unique. We take it for granted that all people think the rule of law, personal liberty and so forth is what matters most.
Also we have the problem that British values are becoming universal values thanks to globalisation. We are quick to forget that many of those values were uniquely ours and that its only thanks to our immense success as a civilization that they are now all over the world.
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Can you have british values if you don't believe in democracy?
Hold on, that other crap you just posted about the Iron Legion blog being 'totally bang on' as well said that Homophobia and Anti-Seminism aren't real words, just constructs invented by the left.
Also, they don't belive in democracy, which was one of the basic tenets of core British Values, that you just said was 'totally bang on'
You just don't know what you believe do you and have your head turned by every little sound bite.
Compassion , empathy and generosity are dead