Protect and Serve . . . yeah right !

Perhaps not the incident, but I can guarantee that if this was a white person gunned down by the cops, it'd be a teeny tiny article that would've probably gone unnoticed.

As it was a black man shot by cops in a country which is already in the limelight for this exact reason, it's front page news.

Sadly the press are more interested in cash and fame than helping douse out the very problems that are tearing our society apart.

When there's video footage of an unarmed white homeless, mentally ill person being set upon by 5 or 6 police before being shot, you can be sure it'll be widely reported.

This is a police brutality incident, not especially a race issue. Except in the eyes of those getting all butthurt about black americans generally being upset about getting killed by police.
 
I know a lot of people hate Russell Brand. I certainly don't agree with some of the things he says, but I'm open minded enough to recognise that sometimes he has a good point.

I also have an open mind, which is why I watched many of his videos and came to the conclusion that hes a bend over and take it in the rear liberal.

I mean metaphorically, I have nothing against people who like it in the bum.
 
The cops can clearly be heard to tell him to drop the gun plenty of times before shooting him.

He was armed then. Otherwise he would have had nothing to drop.

Well the sources I've looked at imply he wasn't armed but reaching for an officers gun. This quote is from thee BBC article I linked to in my opening post.

Police say that three officers opened fire after the man tried to grab a gun from an officer.
 
After yet another shooting of a black man by police in America

I listen to the Adam Carolla podcast show, and whilst being a total douche he does sometimes say things that resonate. Whilst this is being spun as a black issue in the media, its not. Everybody is afraid of the police, regardless of race or colour, its that simple. Its not a white police crucade against the blacks, its the police, who are supposed to serve the people, serving themselves for profit and violence.
 
Not just a race issue but a wider issue about gun control in the US and the power (and unaccountability) the police seem to have.

Yes. I think you've hit on an important point regarding unaccountability. After every police shooting that makes the news, it's almost like a massive wall is erected and the police almost always walk away without any action being taken against them. I feel this angers people as much as the actual shootings.
 
"5 shots were fired"

I must say that is A bit excessive and pretty much point blank range, They could have quite easily shot too wound.

But in fairness to the police, if a guy was trying to grab my gun after resisting arrest I would have shot him. You don't know how many other people may of got killed or seriously injured if he did manage to get the gun
 
Who cares what that idiot thinks?

Ive seen a few of his videos. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault with Russell Brand, someone commits mass murder?

"Well violence is bad yea but lets look at whhhhhhy this is happening, why did this person commit mass murder maybe its our fault!!!" hes utterly odious.

OT: Ive watched the video a few times, all we know is that he is fighting with police.... who are armed. What do you think the outcome would be?

We can't see exactly what is happening in the fray anyway.

You seem to have mixed up "explanation of a situation" with "excuse".

Why shouldn't we look at why people commit murders? There is often more to it than some one being cray cray.

It's like saying that American cops shooting people dead is just because they're trigger happy, and refusing to look at the wider issue of why this is the case.
 
"5 shots were fired"

I must say that is A bit excessive and pretty much point blank range, They could have quite easily shot too wound.

But in fairness to the police, if a guy was trying to grab my gun after resisting arrest I would have shot him. You don't know how many other people may of got killed or seriously injured if he did manage to get the gun

I think their training is more aimed at shoot to kill. The point at which a gun has been drawn and the decision has been made to fire, the ultimate aim is to put the offender down, permanently.
 
A homeless, mentally ill person (i.e. one of the most vulnerable members of society) is dead because of the methods and actions of the police force.

The role of the police force? Supposedly, to protect society.

It's another black mark against universal arming of police. He would be alive if police didn't carry guns.

I hope we never see standard issue of firearms for UK police. And I would hope those who champion the idea think carefully about incidents like this.
 
I listen to the Adam Carolla podcast show, and whilst being a total douche he does sometimes say things that resonate. Whilst this is being spun as a black issue in the media, its not. Everybody is afraid of the police, regardless of race or colour, its that simple. Its not a white police crucade against the blacks, its the police, who are supposed to serve the people, serving themselves for profit and violence.

It's no surprise it's nearly always "black" people committing the crimes and having run ins with the law.

It's because they are poor, not because they are black
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Land of opportunity lol, living the american dream
I heard it was 150k vs 11k in the newest figures but can't find a graph or chart for it
 
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"5 shots were fired"

I must say that is A bit excessive and pretty much point blank range, They could have quite easily shot too wound.

But in fairness to the police, if a guy was trying to grab my gun after resisting arrest I would have shot him. You don't know how many other people may of got killed or seriously injured if he did manage to get the gun

I can understand if you were a solo officer, but there was a big group of them.
 
"5 shots were fired"

I must say that is A bit excessive and pretty much point blank range, They could have quite easily shot too wound.

But in fairness to the police, if a guy was trying to grab my gun after resisting arrest I would have shot him. You don't know how many other people may of got killed or seriously injured if he did manage to get the gun

No, you would have stepped backwards so that he couldn't continue to take your gun whilst he was on the floor flailing about.

You wouldn't have shot him, no one else would have been injured and they didn't have to pull their guns out and fire at him.

There really wasn't any need for 5 officers to be brawling with the guy, and the speed of which the shots were taken demonstrates the intent to kill, not to wound.

Ignore the guy's race for a minute, this is an issue with America as a whole when it comes to guns. They have a crazy mental attitude when it comes to guns and they all suffer for it.
 
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