Protein Powders&Fitness Supplements

Kennysevenfold · 20 Jul 2011 at 15:07

Though some people might be interested in this on here.

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LiE · 20 Jul 2011 at 15:13

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18049226

and Maximuscle is seriously overpriced!

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jul 2011 at 19:02

lol @ maximuscle

Dr. Pain · 20 Jul 2011 at 19:04

Watch out with some of these.

SOME have SILLY creatine content, and can damage your liver/kidneys and cause other nasty side effects.

I was speaking to a nutritionist about this recently, and she was appalled at how high some of them were.

Also causes fluid retention, which is obviously what makes people think they are building muscle fast, when in reality, its just water bloating things up.

Be careful.

EDIT:- LOL WHAT?!!! £31.19 for 1.2KG?!

Hahahaahah, what a rip off. Oh well, some morons will buy it no doubt.

998cc · 20 Jul 2011 at 19:12

Impact whey on myprotein is £39.99 for 5kg

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jul 2011 at 19:24

Dr. Pain said:
Watch out with some of these.

SOME have SILLY creatine content, and can damage your liver/kidneys and cause other nasty side effects.

I was speaking to a nutritionist about this recently, and she was appalled at how high some of them were.

Also causes fluid retention, which is obviously what makes people think they are building muscle fast, when in reality, its just water bloating things up.

Be careful.

EDIT:- LOL WHAT?!!! £31.19 for 1.2KG?!

Hahahaahah, what a rip off. Oh well, some morons will buy it no doubt.

i take it your a doctor in broscience?

creatine occurs naturally in meat and your body produces it naturally and no product has tons of creatine in it, protein for example usually has zero creatine in it unless its an all in one product which are guff.

also protein cannot damage your liver/kidneys unless you already have an underlying problem, in which case it's not really the proteins fault.

this nutritionist does not have a clue what they are talking about, creatine increases the water load in the muscle fascia, increasing the size of your muscle, making the muscle stronger and therefore you can train it harder so it gets bigger.

when you stop taking creatine yes the water will leave but your muscles will be bigger.

if you want more info check out the supplements thread or gym rats thread in sports arena.

also maximuscle is fail, nobody should be going near the stuff.

Pestilence · 20 Jul 2011 at 22:07

BEEFCAKE! BEEEEEEEEEEFCAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!

boxman2000 · 21 Jul 2011 at 09:51

C.P said:
Impact whey on myprotein is £39.99 for 5kg

That's the only one I use - best available IMO

D-Ranged · 21 Jul 2011 at 19:38

boxman2000 said:
That's the only one I use - best available IMO

Ive started using the myprotein stuff, its good but i much prefer the Extreme Nutrition stuff, but costs £36 with a discount for a 2.5kg tub

Squid · 21 Jul 2011 at 22:48

Dr. Pain said:
SOME have SILLY creatine content, and can damage your liver/kidneys and cause other nasty side effects.

I was speaking to a nutritionist about this recently, and she was appalled at how high some of them were.

Fail nutritionist, they should try homeopathy instead

Dr. Pain · 21 Jul 2011 at 23:10

Psycho Sonny said:
i take it your a doctor in broscience?

creatine occurs naturally in meat and your body produces it naturally and no product has tons of creatine in it, protein for example usually has zero creatine in it unless its an all in one product which are guff.

also protein cannot damage your liver/kidneys unless you already have an underlying problem, in which case it's not really the proteins fault.

this nutritionist does not have a clue what they are talking about, creatine increases the water load in the muscle fascia, increasing the size of your muscle, making the muscle stronger and therefore you can train it harder so it gets bigger.

when you stop taking creatine yes the water will leave but your muscles will be bigger.

if you want more info check out the supplements thread or gym rats thread in sports arena.

also maximuscle is fail, nobody should be going near the stuff.

Oh look, an article that totally disagree with what you said:-

http://www.absolute-creatine.com/4.htm

Many many people have reported elevated liver enzymes with taking excess creatine, and lots of these people have been fortunate to catch things in time.

But hey, what does a qualified nutritionist know who was talking to me in hospital about this exact subject.

They even printed off the ingredients sheet of the supplement that I wanted to use to put on weight (actual wieght, medically) not some ****crap body building.

Both nutritionists said that the creatine levels were high, and they wouldnt advise anyone to be taking in 10g+ of Monohydrate a day.

I must admit, I dont care whether you believe what I say or not, but, I do take the advice of the people in the know onboard, and as such, I shall stay off the high dose stuff.

Its half fake anyway, the initial phase is just water retention, takes a lot longer for ANY actual muscle building effect to be evidenced.

I have just seen... you said PROTEIN and liver, I wasnt talking about protein at all... JUST Creatine, unless you meant creatine too?

Arrgh, confused...

Nothing too wrong with protein, its the creatine I have issue with, especially with so many poorly educated people shoving this stuff down their gullets without any real thought to how it may effect them.

Still, anyone who pays £31 per KG for that rubbish probably will ultimately fail and meet darwinism head on sooner or later. lol.

Dr. Pain · 21 Jul 2011 at 23:12

Squid said:
Fail nutritionist, they should try homeopathy instead

And you are qualified in ??... Do tell.

tom_e · 21 Jul 2011 at 23:17

And when I went into hospital the nutritionists recommended I live on microwave meals for my recovery period as they were the easiest thing to prepare when you can only use one arm.
Unfortunately I put very little faith into any nutritional advice given out by people on the NHS payroll mainly because they are trained in a wide range of different things with not a great deal of specialisation for the most part and things like creatine and sports nutrition is a very specialised area.

Freefaller · 21 Jul 2011 at 23:18

Dr. Pain said:
Watch out with some of these.

SOME have SILLY creatine content, and can damage your liver/kidneys and cause other nasty side effects.

I was speaking to a nutritionist about this recently, and she was appalled at how high some of them were.

Also causes fluid retention, which is obviously what makes people think they are building muscle fast, when in reality, its just water bloating things up.

Be careful.

EDIT:- LOL WHAT?!!! £31.19 for 1.2KG?!

Hahahaahah, what a rip off. Oh well, some morons will buy it no doubt.

It'd be nice if people actually understood what these supplements did rather than posting the usual ignorant stuff.

We have a thread in teh SA if you want to discuss it.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of supps at all - and I appreciate you're trying to help people make informed decisions, but creatine isn't really "dangerous" - we're talking about serious dosing before you can cause any kidney issues for very prolonged periods of time.

The water retention effect is useful for muscle building actually, and why creatine is a good supp for short cycles.

Anyway come and chat about it here please:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18049226

Dr. Pain · 21 Jul 2011 at 23:39

No bother...

I wasn't trying to make out it was super dangerous, more what you said, serious dosing.

When you took the manufacturers recommended amount of scoops, multiplied by the content per scoop, multiplied by the three or four times per day serving recommendation, the numbers DID start to get a little mental.

I blame the manufactures, they need a g/kg of body mass for people to use, instead of a one size fits all set of instructions on the label.

I shall leave the discussion for the other thread.

boxman2000 · 22 Jul 2011 at 14:06

D-Ranged said:
Ive started using the myprotein stuff, its good but i much prefer the Extreme Nutrition stuff, but costs £36 with a discount for a 2.5kg tub

I paid much less than that for 5k on special with double points

Guerrilla · 22 Jul 2011 at 14:23

One thing to be wary of also is that Nutritionist isn't a protected term, anyone can claim to be a Nutritionist regardless of qualifications.

Whereas Dietitians do need to be registered.

Psycho Sonny · 22 Jul 2011 at 14:43

Dr. Pain said:
No bother...

I wasn't trying to make out it was super dangerous, more what you said, serious dosing.

When you took the manufacturers recommended amount of scoops, multiplied by the content per scoop, multiplied by the three or four times per day serving recommendation, the numbers DID start to get a little mental.

I blame the manufactures, they need a g/kg of body mass for people to use, instead of a one size fits all set of instructions on the label.

I shall leave the discussion for the other thread.

lol

any "real" manufacturer has proper guidelines, i haven't seen any creatine supplement telling me to take it 3 or 4 times per day

green magnitude for example says:

take 1 scoop per day

or

1/2 a scoop before workout and the other 1/2 a scoop after your workout

it also says to drink several litres of water a day, etc.

creatine is safe, only an idiot would overdose on the stuff.

SCMRubix · 22 Jul 2011 at 14:43

weight gain 4000

CliffyBiro · 22 Jul 2011 at 14:46

Water is dangerous with serious dosing too, y'know.