PS3, is that real?
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Sorry,i should have been more specific.You hated the xbox because it was a cheap PC?
I've just had a look at mine and i must have bought the wrong one then.It doesn't have any usb ports,doesn't support a mouse and keyboard and i don't think it can access the internet.
Just had another look............Yep...............Looks like a console.Its even got a control pad attached to the front.
I've just had a look at mine and i must have bought the wrong one then.It doesn't have any usb ports,doesn't support a mouse and keyboard and i don't think it can access the internet.
Just had another look............Yep...............Looks like a console.Its even got a control pad attached to the front.
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Steedie said:
It was showcased as what they thought the PS3 would allow them to be capable of, to build up some hype. Same with most of the trailers from E3 2005. Obviously most of them were a bit over ambitious, but theres nothing wrong with that. Thats the purpose of a target render, its something to aim for.
But as yewen said, its the gameplay that is most important. The fact that it does not look as good as the original trailer does not affect what the gameplay will be like.
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Robert said:
It was infact half celeron/pentium 3, with a CUSTOM nvidia chipset and a CUSTOM gpu from nVidia. Admittedly it had an awful lot to do with the geforce 3 Ti's, but, the 'Custom GPU' in the xbox 360 is a fettled ATi R520 aka
the X1800's.
ZOMG the 360 has a dvd and a hard drive, and is therefore a pc.
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CPU 733 MHz Intel Custom Pentium III Front Side Bus 133 MHz - 1.0 GB/sec RAM Micron 64 MB DDR SDRAM Memory Bandwidth 6.4 GB/sec bus Storage Medium 8 GB Hard Disk
(Western Digital, 5400 RPM) I/O (Input / Output) w-5x DVD-ROM
Type 9 DVD - 8.5 GB single sided
4x Proprietary USB Game Ports (12 Mbps)
Broadband Ethernet Connection (100 Mbps)
Proprietary Audio/Video Connector Graphics Processor Unit 250 MHz Custom-Designed NV2X Max Polygon Performance 125 M/sec Simultaneous Textures 4.8 G/Sec Pixel Fill Rate 12w Compressed Textures Yes (6:1) Maximum resolution 1920 x 1080 (HDTV Required) MPEG 2 Support Yes (Standard DVD) HDTV Game Support Yes (HDTV Cable Required) DVD Movie Playback Yes (DVD Remote Control Required) Media Comm. Processor 200 MHz Processor Custom
Designed By NVIDIA
Controls Hard Disk & DVD
Controls High-Speed Ethernet
Controls Proprietary USB Game Ports
Controls Advanced Audio which uses:
licensed technology from UK's Sensaura 3D. Peripheral Bus (MCP BUS) 400 MB/s (Full Duplex) Broadband Enabled Yes (10/100 Mbps / TCP/IP / WinSock) Audio Channels 256 3D Audio Support Yes (64 3D channels) Operating System - Windows 2000 Core OS
(Custom designed by MS)
- DirectX 8.0a (Drivers)
- Part 1 of the OS is on the hard disk < 1 MB
- Part 2 of the OS can be DVD disc < 500 K
- (Part 1 includes the core OS, DirectX, DVD playback, some drivers and 3D user interface)
- (Part 2 includes things like libraries, other drivers and other features needed by the developer)
- OS takes less then 3 MB in RAM
- The OS has a 3D user interface when no games are inserted to play music CDs, run DVD movies etc.
- The games run in ring 0, known as kernel mode which is the fastest mode possible. V-CHIP Parental control on DVD's with ESRB ratings
What ever you say - it's an Nforce with a geforce 3. Oh then we have the cpu which is virtually a celeron. And no - the Xenon is more custom than you make out. It's based on the R600 rather than 520, but is similar in performance to an X1800/1900XT.
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just to put the thread back on topic
none of the OP's videos are in game footage
none of the OP's videos are in game footage
No you're not getting my point.
Reason why I liked the PS2 - it was a console. It wasn't ported from the PC.
Reason why I disliked the Xbox - it was ported from PC. The reason why it worked was programmers could just focus on one set of hardware.
Reason for liking 360 - Custom GFX chip, custom IBM chip - stuff that I can't run out and buy like a triple core powerpc chip, custom chip with 10mb edram.
And for the record I do like MS.
Reason why I liked the PS2 - it was a console. It wasn't ported from the PC.
Reason why I disliked the Xbox - it was ported from PC. The reason why it worked was programmers could just focus on one set of hardware.
Reason for liking 360 - Custom GFX chip, custom IBM chip - stuff that I can't run out and buy like a triple core powerpc chip, custom chip with 10mb edram.
And for the record I do like MS.
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da_mic_1530 said:
yeah there all pre rendered. I remember when i first saw that killzone one i was just stunned. Then i heard it was pre rendered and thought sony suck. Ive never been a huge fan of sony but never had anything against them. This time round how ever i seem to have a huge dislike for them. Blatently stealing 360's central button idea. Stealing Wii's controller. They blatently thought when they first showed it **** we need something a bit new and just stole the ideas. I think the PS3 will pump out some nice graphics but i dont see how they can expect people to pay such large amounts especially when it is just a little bit up from a 360. I was amazed when i went into a shop and 23 people had pre-ordered a PS3 but only 2 people a Wii. I simply dont understand but i guess each to there own
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zhx said:yeah there all pre rendered. I remember when i first saw that killzone one i was just stunned. Then i heard it was pre rendered and thought sony suck. Ive never been a huge fan of sony but never had anything against them. This time round how ever i seem to have a huge dislike for them. Blatently stealing 360's central button idea. Stealing Wii's controller. They blatently thought when they first showed it **** we need something a bit new and just stole the ideas. I think the PS3 will pump out some nice graphics but i dont see how they can expect people to pay such large amounts especially when it is just a little bit up from a 360. I was amazed when i went into a shop and 23 people had pre-ordered a PS3 but only 2 people a Wii. I simply dont understand but i guess each to there own
This whole 'stealing' thing has been done to death. How exactly did they copy the idea for a button? You could also say that MS copied the PS2 contoller by putting the 'LB' and 'RB' buttons on the 360 controller, but of course that is just as ridiculous. There's only so many button configurations you can have on a similar shaped controller.
You could say the idea for a console that can by either horizontal or vertical was also copied from PS2, but again that is ridiculous.
Then there's the contoller tilt/acceleration sensing in the PS3 controller that people accuse Sony of stealing. For a start, it was patented in 1999, only to become practically and economically (ahem) viable now. Not that it matters anyway, since the Wii controller uses totally different motion sensing (external sensor as opposed to an internal sensor, allowing different kinds of movements such as swinging a sword).
As i have said earlier, the E3 2005 trailers were target renders. Would you rather they show nothing? Using that logic you could also hate MS for showing those pre-rendered Forza 2 trailers. It makes no sense.
I do agree with you about the price though, as that is down to personal preference. If you aren't interested in having a HDTV and watching Blu-ray movies, then the price of the PS3 is not really justified until there are price drops.
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Kreeeee said:
Only so long as a console design is crippled by its very low price point, and remains an un upgradeable platform, and developers have less freedom.
But give the engineers a 'skys the limit' price point to design a games machine, and then a re design every 6 months, with total freedom for developers, then the PC as a gaming platform would very look silly, PCs are traditionally inefficient for games.
If a niche opens up for a £1500 custom built console, then be afraid
When you say always, lets not forget, the PC was never a superior gamer than the Amiga, SNES, and Playstation 1. For many years the PC argument was 'crisper graphics', because of consoles only working on low res Tv's.
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I agree, dont say always because the two might easily merge. Theres a thin border line between console and computer now and its an artifically created one if anything.
Theres nothing really to stop MS making the 360 browse the internet and so on, they could easily add a keyboard and mouse. Maybe rogue companies will do this despite MS anyway, like linux on the ps2.
If I was MS I would do that but I guess the sums dont add up for them, they need the game sales. Too much of anything else is not profitable overall for them
Theres nothing really to stop MS making the 360 browse the internet and so on, they could easily add a keyboard and mouse. Maybe rogue companies will do this despite MS anyway, like linux on the ps2.
If I was MS I would do that but I guess the sums dont add up for them, they need the game sales. Too much of anything else is not profitable overall for them
But it would be a very smart move to allow for keyboards/mice/net/word processing etc. to be done on the PS3. That would mean a fair few people leaving vista and a PC to move over to an all in one... although that would be a smart business move that would take some of their competitors business. Sony will never do it.
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The one PS3 video I have seen thats impressed me is Heavenly Sword.